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JonF
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Message 12 of 305 (394203)
04-10-2007 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by City_on_a_Hill
04-09-2007 8:42 PM


There may be evidence to back up these "facts" but that evidence can easily be re-interpreted.
Creationists love this mantra. Alas, it fails because ya gotta come up with the re-interpretation of all the evidence. Creationist "interpretations" all rely on ignoring 95%+ of the evidence.

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JonF
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Message 13 of 305 (394204)
04-10-2007 7:49 AM
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04-09-2007 9:11 PM


I do not believe in this postmodern vision. I do not believe that evidence can be interpreted any way that you want, and that one can just believe anything one wants to believe.
It's not necessarily postmodernism. Conceivably there could be an alternative interpretation that accounts for all the evidence. There jsut isn't one (to date).

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JonF
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Message 48 of 305 (394407)
04-11-2007 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by City_on_a_Hill
04-10-2007 8:20 PM


Re: Refuted. (Again). Next PRATT?
Many atheists question evolution
Name a dozen.
Berlinski, maybe. Who else?

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JonF
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Message 71 of 305 (395040)
04-14-2007 6:03 PM
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04-14-2007 5:49 PM


Re: You're kidding right?
Just because an animal has characteristics of two or more different organisms does not make it transitional.
ROFL! "Having characteristics of two or more different organisms" is a pretty accurate definition of "transitional" in paleontology. E.g. Transitional Fossil.
A transitional fossil should have transtional forms (partly formed legs, teeth, eyes, etc.)
Actually, lots of them do. Partially formed but, of course, fully fuctional.

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JonF
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Message 86 of 305 (395064)
04-14-2007 7:52 PM
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04-14-2007 6:20 PM


Re: You're kidding right?
ROFL! "Having characteristics of two or more different organisms" is a pretty accurate definition of "transitional" in paleontology. E.g. Transitional Fossil.
I'm sure you've heard of homology. Many animals share common characteristics.
They're only transitional if you've already assumed the theory of evolution to be correct.
"Having characteristics of two or more different organisms" is still a pretty accurate definition of "transitional" in paleontology, as shown at my refernce; and "having characteristics of two or more different organisms" does not presuppose how the organism came to be that way.
However, the obvious and consistent pattern in which such fossils are found make the source pretty obvious.
Actually, lots of them do. Partially formed but, of course, fully fuctional.
Article? You're just making an assertion without using any support.
You could start with a basic understanding of biology and the theory of evolution. Like sixth-grade level. All organisms are fully-developed and functional. The fact is that what we see is "fully developed" and "functional" changing over time. The theory of evolution is the best explanation we have for those observed facts.
But here's a few to get you started.
Life's Grand Design
http://www.karger.com/gazette/64/fernald/art_1_0.htm
Evolution of the Eye: Lessons from Freshman Physics
and Richard Dawkins

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