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Topic: Should the Public Airwaves be More or Less Censored?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: No to Censorship
brennakimi writes: there's these amazing things called books... except you'd probably want to censor those too, in case the kids aren't supervised at the library... Before Desparate Housewives there was the Sears catalogue.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 80 of 310 (393642)
04-06-2007 3:32 AM
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Reply to: Message 78 by riVeRraT
04-06-2007 3:19 AM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: It is not legal to offend people.... Where on earth did you get such a bizarre idea? Of course it's legal to offend people. Edited by Ringo, : Fixed quote.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 82 of 310 (393646)
04-06-2007 4:00 AM
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Reply to: Message 81 by DrJones*
04-06-2007 3:54 AM
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Re: No to Censorship
DrJones* writes: No acting involved, just scorching hot girl on girl action, and since it's 100% real you'd have no objections to it right? I don't even care if it is acting.  But I stand on my God-given right to be offensive.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 94 of 310 (393691)
04-06-2007 12:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 88 by riVeRraT
04-06-2007 10:09 AM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: But I stand on my God-given right to be offensive. So go walk up to your local police and curse him out. That happens in almost every traffic stop. Do you seriously believe I don't have the right to call a cop a "pig"? Do you seriously want the police to have the power to arrest people who don't tug their forelock and say "yassa, yassa"? Edited by Ringo, : Spellin'.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 118 of 310 (394231)
04-10-2007 11:51 AM
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Reply to: Message 113 by riVeRraT
04-10-2007 11:07 AM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: ... think about a person standing on the corner, in the middle of the night with a bullhorn shouting out their opinions of the attacks on the twin towers. So this person has the right to do that, but not after 9pm when it is disturbing the peace. He might win the appeal. Ironically, he'd have a better case on free-speech grounds than if he was blasting ABBA at full volume.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 122 of 310 (394253)
04-10-2007 2:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 119 by riVeRraT
04-10-2007 2:01 PM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: All around us, there are examples of just how not free freedom of speech really is. So, shouldn't we be concerned with making it more free instead of less? If we let them ban trivial things like a desparate housewife's lingerie, what's next?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 125 of 310 (394326)
04-10-2007 5:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 124 by riVeRraT
04-10-2007 5:34 PM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: But I am not looking to ban it. You have been advocating restrictions on broadcasting of commercials. You did suggest that Desparate Housewives ads should not be shown and that casual beheadings should not be shown. Where do you draw the line between "reasonable" restrictions and an outright ban? How do you decide how much erosion of freedom is justifiable?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 132 of 310 (394335)
04-10-2007 6:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 127 by riVeRraT
04-10-2007 5:58 PM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: That's a tricky question isn't it? They're all tricky if you stop and think about them instead of just knee-jerk reacting.
Corupting the minds of our youth is, to me, an erosion of freedom, and much more dangerous for us, than just controlling content within time periods, and shows that are rated for children. I'm not so worried about my children having "corrupted" minds. I'd be much more worried about them having empty minds. You can't test a filter by running distilled water through it. If we want our children to learn to distinguish the good from the bad, they have to be exposed to real life, not just the sanitized version.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 139 of 310 (394424)
04-11-2007 11:21 AM
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Reply to: Message 135 by riVeRraT
04-11-2007 8:59 AM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: Yes, real life, as I have been saying all along, not the fictitous version, before there time. One of the advantages of fiction is that you can learn about life from the comfort and safety of your own living room. I'd rather have my children learn about heads being blown off that way. I'd rather have them filling their minds where I can be with them and explain things to them if necessary and comfort them if necessary.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 146 of 310 (394491)
04-11-2007 6:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 142 by riVeRraT
04-11-2007 4:59 PM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: But what about the time your not with your kids, and they happen to catch something? What about when they are in school? I'm glad if they "happen to catch something" when I'm not around. I can't think of everything to tell them so I'm glad they have other sources to get them thinking.
What about the children that aren't being supervised? I'm less concerned about "supervising" them than about being available to talk to them. I don't think my children should be deprived of a source of information just because somebody else isn't making proper use of it. Let them watch what they want. Chances are they'll be bored by the "bad" stuff anyway. (By the way, I don't approve of children watching basketball. They should be playing it, not watching it.)
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 157 of 310 (394529)
04-11-2007 9:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 150 by riVeRraT
04-11-2007 7:54 PM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: You don't see a difference in "information" and things that could possibly hurt your childrens minds? No. They can't learn to filter out the bad information if they never see any. If you shield them from life, it will only make them more curious to see what you don't want them to see. There's more danger in that than in letting them make their own choices.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 166 of 310 (394575)
04-12-2007 11:03 AM
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Reply to: Message 162 by riVeRraT
04-12-2007 9:43 AM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: I do not intend to "sheild" children from life, but make life relative to their age. But you don't get to decide what's appropriate for the age of my children. If you censor the public airwaves, you're taking away my right to raise my children as I see fit. A five-year-old driving a car is a poor analogy. He presents a danger to society at large - a five-year-old watching pornography does not.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 175 of 310 (394645)
04-12-2007 4:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 173 by nator
04-12-2007 2:41 PM
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Re: We LOVE these!
I think cow-pornography should be banned from the Internet.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 179 of 310 (394831)
04-13-2007 12:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 177 by riVeRraT
04-13-2007 10:17 AM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: A five-year-old driving a car is a poor analogy. He presents a danger to society at large - a five-year-old watching pornography does not. Are you 100% sure about that statement? Never mind how sure I am. If you have a point to make against that statement, make it.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 198 of 310 (396385)
04-19-2007 8:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 193 by riVeRraT
04-19-2007 7:45 PM
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Re: No to Censorship
riVeRraT writes: They can live in the world, but they shouldn't be part of it. That's fundie.
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