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RAZD
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Message 237 of 305 (202383)
04-25-2005 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by AdminAsgara
04-25-2005 7:10 PM


Re: contracycle, clothes, humans, and bare lies.
the problem with that, is that the thread then becomes consumed with answering the falsehoods that contracycle posted and the topic gets derailed entirely.
or you don't answer, and the lies win?

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RAZD
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Message 239 of 305 (202422)
04-25-2005 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by arachnophilia
04-25-2005 9:15 PM


Re: Contracycle, Arachnophilia, Razd
lol yes I was.
and that on top of his claiming that refering to a dictionary was an appeal to authority while his own private definition was valid.
ah well maybe next time.
what do you think about a "Got a beef?" thread? Seems to me we've had several thread dedicated to certain posters pecadillios.
maybe I should propose one, I'm getting good at {closed out at the starting gate} posts ....

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RAZD
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Message 242 of 305 (202797)
04-26-2005 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by arachnophilia
04-25-2005 11:28 PM


Re: Contracycle, Arachnophilia, Razd
i think it would spiral out of control within the first 3 posts, be a breeding ground for hate, and result in several of us getting banned.
I disagree. I also participate in a board where there are no monitors and no control over what anyone says. It does have the {IA} feature that was mentioned by Lam, but it is rarely used by honest posters (except for the board "trolls" - but that is a different issue)
rarely does this board devolve into slug-fest verbal garbage, although some closely related political ones do.
thus it isn't a given. there could still be a monitor on it to make sure that no one poster was engaging in pure ad hominum as the purpose is to state:
In my opinion {this person}
engages in {this behavior}
and it disrupts other threads
{this} is a specific example
where I have seen it happen
or
{this} is what {this person}
can do to prove me wrong
ie -- it has to be substantiated itself or should be easy to refute if wrong.
thus a claim that {X} is misrepresenting {Y}'s posts can be refuted by showing that {Y} actually posted that exact claim
and a claim of equivocation on an answer can be substantiated by showing that the {person} has substantially changed his position while claiming not to have done so.
It could actually take some of the load off the admins by letting the people voice their opinions.

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RAZD
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Message 244 of 305 (202869)
04-26-2005 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by AdminJar
04-26-2005 9:57 PM


stop what?
I am not talking about that thread, but a new one. I think there is a need for a place to discuss this kind of issue, and that blanket supression of it is counterproductive in the long run.
I would be happy to discuss with admin what would be some good guidlines for it - does it need to be a forum or just a topic under {suggestions and questions}?
I don't see where this would require violation of the forum guidelines because the main focus would be on substantiating either the claim or the counterclaim (you show evidence of your position or state how your position is falsifiable).
for example
"claim {A} by poster {X} is a false statement"
is not itself a violation, except when the issue comes down to verification.
for instance "claim {6x9=42} by poster {X} is a false statement" is subject to definite evidence whether it is right or wrong
the claim "poster {X} says poster {Y} said {statement C} is a falsehood" can be falsified by poster {X} quoting an actual post by poster {Y} that contains {statement C}
note that this is dealing with the issues of the posts, it is in compliance with the guidelines, and also ... it allows this kind of issue to be resolved without disrupting other threads so that they can stay on topic.
what's wrong with the idea?

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RAZD
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Message 246 of 305 (202873)
04-26-2005 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 245 by AdminJar
04-26-2005 11:19 PM


Re: The Admins will take it under consideration
thanks, and good night

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RAZD
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Message 302 of 305 (394725)
04-12-2007 9:23 PM


Blood in dino bones thread
Can we reopen Blood in dino bones for jjsemsch re off-topic comments on Message 38?
Edited by RAZD, : correct message

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