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Larni
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Message 1 of 11 (394792)
04-13-2007 9:01 AM


I was thinking about a persons use of evidence and how it comes about:
Some evidence appears to me to be directly from an occuring phenomena insofar as it comes direct to the senses - such as temperature. From here a person can draw a conclusion about the temperature.
That is not to say to measure the temperature precisely but to measure its effect on the person in question.
It's too hot, just right, cool, etc. But what we don't get is precise interval data; for this we use measuring machines. The best we can get with our senses is a catagorical interpretation of the data.
When we read the readouts on such measuring machines we recieve more accurate information.
We do this evey time we want to accurately assess occuring phenomena.
I would like to propose that for the above reasons any conclusions made by humans that does not include some form of metric in fundementally flawed by our ability to measure data accurately.
To do it accurately we need measuring devices or techniques.
Therefore, anything that cannot be measured to such a degree of accuracy cannot be used as evidence for the actuallity of a phemnona.
Is it Science, please.
Edited by Larni, : Better title.

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Larni
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From: Liverpool
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Message 4 of 11 (394805)
04-13-2007 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Coragyps
04-13-2007 9:48 AM


Too darn hot.
Good grief!
Living in the UK I can't imagine tempertures such as that; but it is a great example of how what we percieve is so often skewed by our self referential catagorical interpretation of data.
I know full well I would have died in such extreme heat, me being a whey faced Brit!

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Larni
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Message 7 of 11 (395378)
04-16-2007 6:49 AM


So what am I getting at?
Well, religious experience would fall into the non-measurable catagory (I assert) and this means it is inherently untrustworthy.
With no way to measure religious experience how can anyone possibly conclude it is real?

  
Larni
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Message 9 of 11 (395614)
04-17-2007 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Dr Adequate
04-16-2007 7:56 PM


I think you misinterpret me.
My point is tha we can only 'measure' or even acknowledge the actuality of the existance of a god (so I am led to believe) by personal experience.
As I asserted in the OP this is fundementally flawed in terms of accuracy and so any 'experience' of contact (in what ever form) with a god is terribly inaccurate to a point that we can draw no reasonable conclusions from.

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Larni
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Message 11 of 11 (395858)
04-18-2007 6:21 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Phat
04-17-2007 3:52 PM


Re: Faith cannot be measured
Or we conclude faith is a fundementally flawed and error prone mode of thought.
As we saw in chat, there are reasons to have believe in a god that are not religious.

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