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Topic: Problems with Genesis Creation
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Doddy
Member (Idle past 5936 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: 01-04-2007
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Message 74 of 173 (396056)
04-18-2007 7:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 57 by jjsemsch
04-18-2007 4:48 PM
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Re: My top 20: 13 of 20
jjsemsch writes: Genetic mutations would not have started until after the fall. That can't be true. Fungi contain mutagens (that is, they cause genetic mutations) called Aflatoxin. So, either mutations were caused before the fall, or new features can evolve. Which is it? If it is true that mutations didn't occur, I would love to know the structure of pre-fall DNA polymerase and photolysases.
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Doddy
Member (Idle past 5936 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: 01-04-2007
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Message 113 of 173 (396454)
04-20-2007 2:17 AM
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Reply to: Message 107 by Cthulhu
04-19-2007 6:00 PM
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Re: Let's take a look at Noah's Ark, shall we?
Cthulhu writes: This would peg kinds at around the familial level, if not higher. That's not good, if it applies to all species. Family Hominidae - contains orang-utans, gorillas, chimpanzees and humans. And I've never seen a creationist able to expand their view of large baramin (orders or famililies as comparable to baramin) to humans.
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Doddy
Member (Idle past 5936 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: 01-04-2007
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Message 121 of 173 (396555)
04-20-2007 8:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 118 by jar
04-20-2007 1:08 PM
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Re: Some rebuttals
Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness. Bolding mine. I don't think that any dinosaur, or any other vertebrate, has more than one head!
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Doddy
Member (Idle past 5936 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: 01-04-2007
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Message 160 of 173 (397391)
04-25-2007 7:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 151 by jjsemsch
04-25-2007 3:17 PM
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Re: My top 20: 13 of 20
Ok. You are no longer allowed to use the argument "New features cannot evolve" or "Evolution can't cause an increase in information", because you've already admitted that poisons (in plants, animals and fungi) can evolve. Wouldn't want to be called a hypocrite. Edited by Doddy, : update sig
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Doddy
Member (Idle past 5936 days) Posts: 563 From: Brisbane, Australia Joined: 01-04-2007
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Message 173 of 173 (398536)
05-01-2007 6:37 AM
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Reply to: Message 171 by jjsemsch
04-30-2007 3:54 PM
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Re: My top 20: 13 of 20
jjsemsch writes: The changes we see in nature are a downward progression. This is consistent with God creating all plants, animals and humans “very good” and since degenerating as a result of the curse.
Downward is subjective. You've already said that poisons evolved after the fall. So, it looks like from the perspective of snakes and spiders, it's got a lot better!
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