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Author Topic:   YHWH, Yahweh, Jehovah, adonai, lord, elohim, god, allah, Allah thread.
jar
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Message 214 of 298 (396847)
04-22-2007 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 213 by Modulous
04-22-2007 2:28 PM


Jehovah is just the Creation of Man
Of course the Hebrews too had their list of the Names of G_d.
To pretend that there is some one correct name of GOD is simply silly. YHVH is imply the one that appears most often in the Tanakh and we really are clueless what it actually is. Things like Jehovah are just creations of man, labels we have assigned.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 219 of 298 (397020)
04-23-2007 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Buzsaw
04-23-2007 9:52 PM


Re: Fundamentalists
The prophet/messiah Mohammed's god Allah inspired him to kill, kill, and kill until Islam becomes the world religion. The god of the prophet/messiah Jesus's god Jehovah inspired him to love, love, love, save, save, save and to kill nobody.
Buz that is a bunch of Bullshit, even for you. Christianity was spread by the sword. Plus the Bible is filled with that God telling his followers to kill folk.
The fact is, Jehovah is NOT a proper name for GOD it is a made up word, and it is only the Christian Cult of Ignorance that makes such claims. Even YHWH is simply descriptive and not a proper name and only one of MANY such descriptive names.
It's time you began posting something that is at least close to the truth.
How can the one and same god inspire the two prophet/messiahs to do the opposite?
Simple, that is simply a false statement.
Mohammad is not a Messiah. Your constant repetition of false assertions do not make them true.
How also can the one and same god have two messiahs, both who claim to be the real messiah and the one's followers kill the followers of the other et al, et al?
That too is simple. The religion that claims a Messiah simply killed off as many as possible when it encountered different faiths. Christianity has ALWAYS simply killed off the other theists while Islam has historically been accepting.
Again, Islam does not claim a messiah. You really need to stop posting just plain falsehoods.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 225 of 298 (397030)
04-23-2007 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 223 by Buzsaw
04-23-2007 10:56 PM


Re: Fundamentalists
Are you going to show your ignorance by telling the www that the prophet Mohammed and his close desciples killed nobody and advocated no killing? And you chide me for falsehoods? You have no shame, as usual, Jar.
LOL
Of course that is not what I have EVER said.
What I have said is that historically, Christianity was spread by the sword and that historically, Islam has been more tolerant of other religions than Christianity.
As I've documented over and over, the only one's God ever allowed to kill was over the land of Israel which God chose to be his land for his people.
Yes Buz, the GOD of the Bible, of Christianity, sanctioned killing, often for something as minor as land and not even belief.
Islam teaches that when Jesus returns to earth he will become a follower of Mohammed and of Islam. This allegedly makes Mohammed greater than Jesus. Islam denies Jesus is the son of God. The fact that the preaching of Jesus and his gospel is forbidden in Islamic fundy nations proves that Mohammed is greater than he to them. You don't become a Muslim by believing or saying Jesus is Allah's prophet. To do so would likely get you in deep dodo. Only Mohammed is to be declared his prophet. That is required of all Muslims.
Still simply more of your bullshit Buz. Islam DOES say that Jesus is Allah's Prophet. Don't you ever get tired of posting falsehoods?
And what does ANY of that have to do with the fact that Jehovah is just a human made up word and that YHWH is a descriptive phrase meaning and not a proper name.

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jar
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Message 234 of 298 (397254)
04-25-2007 8:25 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by rizal
04-25-2007 5:51 AM


Heading back towards the topic.
In my opinion God's laws couldn't consider as "barbaric" laws,
Many folk also hold that opinion, however if the Old Testament is considered as literally true, then it is hard to think of some other word to describe some of the Laws than Barbaric.
But please remember that Buz and others simply use that issue to try to change the focus of the discussion away from the topic.
Most folk here realize, as you do, that all of the Abrahamic religions worship the same God, no matter which of the many descriptive titles is used.
We're glad you joined us and look forward to learning from you in the future.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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