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Neutralmind

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Message 1 of 389 (396852)
04-22-2007 6:10 PM

Okay, for me to fairly evaluate the big bang theory I'd like you to tell me what it's problems still are. Don't say there aren't any 'cause you know there are

Now, I'm not talking about it's overall plausability but some individual problems.

Such as:

- Some quasars calculated to be behind galaxies by their red shifts when in fact you can see the quasars are in front of them.
- All asteroids should have already been destroyed if the universe was billions of years old ( I don't know if this is some creationist invention though )
- Problems with quasars

As big bang theorists attempt to solve the age problem by making the time to the big bang longer, they exacerbate the quasar problem. Quasars become even farther away and intrinsically brighter. Yet their temperature remains that of ordinary stars as exhibited by emission spectra of metallic ions that can only exist at a limited range of temperature. They are known to be about stellar size since they vary in brightness on a scale of a few minutes to seconds. How do they stay so bright at such a low temperature in such a small volume? They can't. They must have an intrinsic non-Doppler redshift and be nearby to be explained.
Why the Big Bang is Wrong

- Superclusters dated older than the universe (I will quote from a site)

While galaxies are a mere hundred thousand light-years across and clusters not more than ten million or so, a supercluster might snake through a few hundred million light-years of space.

It turns out that galaxies almost never move much faster than a thousand kilometers per second, about one-three-hundredths as fast as the speed of light.

Simply put, if Tully's objects exist, the universe cannot have begun twenty billion years ago.

Cosmology: The Big Bang Theory: Famous Dissident Scientists on Problems of the Big Bang. Arp, Lerner, Mitchell, Haselhurst

I'd like know if those quotes have any real insight or if they're just ment to fool the gullible(like me), but most of all I'd like to know what you think still are the unsolved problems with the Big Bang theory.

Just in case anyone wants to know, I do believe the BB theory to be correct but wish to discuss it's problems and how&if they will be solved.

What I don't want to discuss here is singularity, dark matter and dark energy because of all of them being such a large subject, save them for their own topic.
NO morality discussions are allowed in this thread!

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Neutralmind

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Message 16 of 389 (397136)
04-24-2007 4:12 PM

Okay, here's a seriously non biased website and a quasar in front of a galaxy (apparently).
The Picture that Won‘t Go Away

Is there anything into this? Btw, don't just bash the site, I want to know if there's really any validity.

edit: Okay, this is the NGC 7319 which some of you mentioned. Still, is there any validity to the claim that is in front of the galaxy?

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Neutralmind

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Message 18 of 389 (397140)
04-24-2007 4:25 PM

Reply to: Message 17 by PaulK
04-24-2007 4:22 PM

If you didn't catch my sarcasm (looking back I don't see how you could have though) that's just... Unlucky.
This is why we must keep the smilies people!

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Neutralmind

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Message 29 of 389 (397380)
04-25-2007 6:14 PM

Reply to: Message 27 by Son Goku
04-25-2007 6:23 AM

Re: Problems with the Big Bang.

Are you looking for problems with specific models about how the universe evolved following the Big Bang? There are some open questions on most of these, which I'd be happy to provide if you want to talk about them.

I'm only familiar with the most "mainstream" BB theory, that the universe began (if you'll excuse me) from a singularity. If there are open questions for this theory then yes, I'm interested.
I'm looking for observations that are still contradictory, peculiar or unexplained by the big bang theory, the problems what astronomists and physicist are trying to solve.

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