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subbie
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Message 38 of 66 (393751)
04-06-2007 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by jar
04-06-2007 5:47 PM


Re: Confidential to subbie.
Destroyed before decoding, message not read.
'Preciate the heads up!

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 39 of 66 (393753)
04-06-2007 5:52 PM
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04-06-2007 5:49 PM


Re: Pffrrts from Splat
An ingenious solution!
Unfortunately, since funds are a bit tight right now, that may not be terribly practical. Unless you'd care to join the effort by doing fund raising and a preliminary geological survey at the Vmitic antipode? That would sure be a big help.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 42 of 66 (396098)
04-18-2007 10:05 PM


Update
I hope that my minions haven't been goldbricking in my absence, but I've been away doing some important experiments on the effects of Substantium on various objects. I have come to the following conclusions during the past week.
1. If one positions oneself in a certain precise location in the Metrodome, a localized concentration of Substantium will cause a foul ball to be hit in your direction. As evidence of this phenomenon, I currectly have possession of said baseball and will provide photographic proof of this possession upon request. In all the baseball games I have gone to in the past, I have never caught a baseball, but the very first time that I choose a seat based on the level of Substantium, I catch one. Very telling indeed.
2. Copious amounts of alcohol will interfere with one's ability to resist the pull of Substantium, resulting in repeated instances of succumbing to the pull of Substantium. During such times, one should steer clear of stairs and dramatic changes of elevation.
I await updates from my assistants.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

  
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Message 44 of 66 (397172)
04-24-2007 8:04 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Neutralmind
04-24-2007 5:29 PM


The mass of other bodies at a distance from Earth create focal areas of the force of Substantium which act locally to attract nearby bodies. Substantium does in fact draw these other objects toward the Earth, but that effect is still outweighed by the force of the initial "explosion" that created the universe.

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Message 46 of 66 (397183)
04-24-2007 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by kuresu
04-24-2007 8:39 PM


Re: the big crunch?
Well, I certainly expect that anyone reading this will be long dead before any crunch comes. Whether the species will be extinct, or evolved out of existence, is not known. This is one of the very fruitful areas of research that needs to be explored regarding Substantium that shows what a vital scientific theory this is.
I haven't fully explored the manner in which Substantium works at a distance, the force of its pull, whether there are other objects or substances that might interfere with it across interstellar, and intergalactic, space, etc, etc, etc. Without knowing a great deal more about these details, I cannot make any estimate whether the force of Substantium is enough to pull everything back or not or, if it is, how long that process would take. As I am sure you can see, vast amounts of study, and funding, are needed to answer these important questions.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 49 of 66 (397298)
04-25-2007 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Parasomnium
04-25-2007 10:32 AM


Re: Update
I fear I must caution you not to spread Plan B around, even if you see a nominal short term gain. While it may be true that it helped in the community of Ffárt, we must take care that even that one time disclosure doesn't get spread around the countryside. While I know nothing more about Ffárt than you have shared here, I have concerns that they may not be capable of keeping it secret. They don't sound at first blush like the sort who will keep things in well.
A word to the wise.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 51 of 66 (397321)
04-25-2007 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Neutralmind
04-25-2007 12:29 PM


What else have you got for proof?
I'm intrigued.
On the one hand, I see no need to invoke the existence of your Subtum, since the known effect of mass locally focusing the force of Substantium is sufficient to explain the observed phenomenon you describe. On the other hand, I'm not one to stifle scientific inquiry. After all, if not for free inquiry, I wouldn't have stumbled onto the truth of Substantium. So I will follow your further thoughts and developments along this line with some interest.
Best of luck!

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 54 of 66 (397374)
04-25-2007 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Neutralmind
04-25-2007 3:09 PM


No, Substantium dooesn't refute the big bang, not at all.
Substantium is only found on Earth because in the early moments of the universe, all of the atoms of Substantium were drawn together by their mutual attractive force to one location. Over time, as this attractive force pulled matter towards it and our planet was formed, as well as the other planets of our solar system. However, this accumulation of matter took time, because the force of Substantium had to overcome the initial force from the big bang that tended to push all matter outwards.
All of this rather elegantly explains how the Earth can be the center of the universe, but still be billions of years younger than other objects. The Substantium was always there, just as it is now. It just took a great deal of time for enough matter to collect around the Substantium to create a star, planets, and the other objects that constitute our solar system.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 55 of 66 (397375)
04-25-2007 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Parasomnium
04-25-2007 3:57 PM


Re: Plan B is safe
Well, you haven't let me down yet, and are currently my leading fundraiser, so I guess I'll just have to trust you on that one.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 58 of 66 (397503)
04-26-2007 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Parasomnium
04-26-2007 3:03 AM


Re: A Polite Protest
Well stated.
I hereby make your appointment official, and further decree that you are the Official Nut Dismisser as well.
{seal}

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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