Should the Public Airwaves be More or Less Censored?

actually, fiction is a wonderful tool for examining society. looking at real life, things are too muddled to examine things and see how they work clearly. Fiction works because it's an exaggeration. why is Gulliver's Travels effective? Why 1984? Why Animal Farm? Why "Mister Smith Goes to Washington"?fiction shouldn't be censored.

trouble is, RR, that not everything offensive is obscene.that test you mentioned is for obscenity. not offensiveness.

isn't it extremely early for you to start saying just what caused Cho to shoot the students at VT?fuck you, man. what an incredibly stupid example to use--the massacre just happened, you fuckwad. leave it out of your arguments right now. fucking hell.

contradiction. you don't want to isolate them, but by saying they shouldn't be a part of the world, they would be isolated. the TV is not the only way to be in touch with the world. In fact, I hardly watch TV--only for mythbusters, MASH, and if something's good on the history or science channel. And even that's rare (actually watching any of those). Instead, I'm plugged into my computer.
where's the hypocrisy you're smelling?

wrong. being intentionally rude and harrassing someone are two different things. so yes, you would be needing to pass a law.

Giving that control to the FCC seems stupid then. Afterall, you want that power.Anyhow, fairly simple, no? You want better control? You've got a V-chip (i would hope). You've got a remote. You can limit what your kids watch without having to be there. Control over what you see is simple enough--change the channel if you don't like what's on. I mean jeez, how difficult is this?

do you have satellite or cable tv? if so, deselect those channels you find offensive.I should add. Air bags don't always work. Should we stop using them, then? Seat belts don't always work. Stop using them too? Poor argument, rat. no. it's not my business. that said, if he was attemtping to show my child porn, I would prevent that. please note, I'm not a parent--only 19, but were I a parent, that would be my course of action.but I really don't see what this has to do with your issue--unless you want to control what other parent's kids watch. You just want to control what your kid's watch. Here's another solution--"no tv while we're not here".

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but I really don't see what this has to do with your issue--unless you want to control what other parent's kids watch.

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Yes, I am concerned for all our youth. And if my neighbor was showing porn to a 6 year old, you bet I would call social services in about a half a heartbeat.

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Hey rat, that quote is from me, not ravhin. can't find it anyhwere in his post that you reply to. However, that's definitely in my post which you never replied to.Just wanted to let people know.

then clarify the condensed parts. you know, like say: don't leave people in the dark thinking you're an idiot.hint--i wrote that last quoted bit that rahvin is complaining about.

I'm assuming you mean aside from all the laughter whenever one of Wil E. Coyote's plans backfire?Can't say what effect it had on me aside from that. As in, what effect? Have I become more violent? I try to not fight. don't like to. warped my "fragile" mind?I mean come on, what level of violence are we talking here? Someone getting hit by running into a tree? Or someone getting their guts ripped out by Hannibal? Most of those kiddie shows have minor violent acts. Never mind, this is all pointless anyhow. go and censure the living hell out of your kids. Just don't mess with my tv.

lol, rat. So now I'm not an american if I disagree with you? Lol.For your information, Tv shows are controlled by private companies, and those shows are broadcasted by private companies. Last I checked, Nickelodeon nor Disney nor DirecTv were public. Our schools are (well, the vast majority of the them).And here's a hint--the "public" at EvC is saying something about this, we just don't agree with your stance that the FCC should be able to strictly censure what is broadcasted.too funny rat, too funny. We disagree so now we're un-"american". Last I checked, my US passport is still valid. Guess that means I'm still an "american".

Then they say this: Contradiction. If the studies are inconclusive, how can they be clear?Furthermore: well gee, that's stupid, don't you think? You have a tool there--use it. Then maybe the parents, who are the first and last line of defense should learn what those ratings are and use the tools given to start with before we introduce restrictive legislation.I mean geez, this is common sense stuff. Of course the V-chip isn't working when so many damn parents aren't doing their "job". But wait, isn't it their "job" to "protect"? They're not doing that to begin with regardless the tools they have. Are these, then, negligent parents? Or are they just ignorant? If they're ignorant, teach them how to use the damn thing.

one little nitpick, later I'll hit the rest: Freedom of speech is actually a negative right. A positive right is like the right to health care. The difference? Positives gauruntee you something, while negatives protect something from being taken away. (Later I'll revise this, too. that's a pretty cruddy and vague definition). um, riight. A hypocrite is where you say one thing, and do another. Like "I will not lie" and then you proceed to lie. That's a hypocrite. We are not hypocrites if we don't see a problem and decide to do squat about a non-existant problem. Plus, we've even told you what you can do. You just don't like our suggestions (my guess is because they're too difficult [in your mind]). irrelevant. The topic is censorship, not abortion. You then follow with "unwanted" pregnancies. unwanted /= accidental. abortion /= censorship. If anything, making abortion illegal is censoring what the women chooses to do with her body. Making abortion legal repeals that "censorship". But really, abortion does not equal censorship. No hypocrisy here. um, aside from being unconstitutional, censorship is just plain out wrong. When you censor things, you censor creativity, you limit it, you restrict it. You put a halt on advancement and progression.And since you have no problem with censorship, perhaps we should sensor the bible outright, no? (it's been on those lists before). Or do you just favor censorship when it works in your favor?Censorship is: turkeys really can't fly that well. I would think an eagle would have no problem flying away unless mobbed by the turkeys.*no clue how to do that text scratch out. seen it before, just don't remember the code. should an admin happen upon this, can you do the scrath on "great" in the quote? thanks.Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.