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Author Topic:   April 2007 Post of the Month
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Message 16 of 21 (396710)
04-21-2007 7:52 PM

The "Do we talk up or down to fundies?" topic in general
Name: Various members
Forum: Miscellaneous Topics in Creation/Evolution
Thread: Do we talk up or down to fundies?
Post #: Various messages

Currently at message 16. I'm giving it a sort of "Topic of the Month" plug.


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Message 17 of 21 (397451)
04-25-2007 11:53 PM

Eloquent and simple.

Truthlover in Message 33

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Message 18 of 21 (397652)
04-27-2007 12:06 AM

AdminQuetzal, at "Moderator Attention/Assistance Requested"
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Thread: Moderator Attention/Assistance Requested
Post #: 305

For the general membership, this will be kind of like wondering what Dick Cheney's up to, when he's hanging out at his "undisclosed location". :)


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Message 19 of 21 (397684)
04-27-2007 8:54 AM
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04-27-2007 12:06 AM

Re: AdminQuetzal, at "Moderator Attention/Assistance Requested"
Thank you Mighty Moose. That ought to confuse people. :D I'm wondering if selected elements (i.e., improving quality of participation, etc) might not be a good general membership topic - we seem to be flailing around in PAF without much of a solution on this.
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Message 20 of 21 (397799)
04-27-2007 6:53 PM

Quetzal on the place of religion
in the thread "Choosing to believe"

Message 51

I think the common creationist whinge about science being constantly changing its collective mind may stem from this. Science simply doesn't provide certainty. Some people have less tolerance for ambiguity than others, evidently. What I find mildly amusing in all this is that if your Cult of Ignorance crowd would simply stop ranting long enough to take a hard look at what science actually does, they'd find that science is endeavoring to accomplish the exact task they take it to, erm, task for: it seeks, through comprehensive, cautious, step-by-step methodology, to reduce ambiguity - to answer those intractable questions.

I wish I had said it. :(

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Message 21 of 21 (398120)
04-29-2007 11:53 AM

The 2nd Amendment
As an American from the midwest (where 2nd Amendment issues are debated most hotly), it's been my understanding that the pro-gun crowd interprets it to mean that "because it's necessary for private citizens to be asked to form a spontaneous, irregular civil defense force, private citizens shall be allowed to own firearms."

So it's not that you have to join a militia in order to own a firearm; it's that you own firearms so that you can join a militia, if needed.

That said there's never been a civilization in the history of mankind where you didn't have to earn the right to bear weapons. So I think barriers to gun ownership are a good idea. I think sweeping bans on weapons aren't necessary, but I support measures like a national ballistics database and other technological means (including mandated retrofitting of weapons) that would mean that every fired bullet could be matched to a gun and a fingerprint.

The gun debate has its pro's and con's undoubtedly. Sifting for right answers out of the detritus of wrong one's is a difficult thing to do. And yet, here, Crashfrog very eloquently, conscientiously, fairly, and realistically captures, what I believe to be the essence and the intent of the Drafters of the Second Amendment.

"God is like the sun. You can't look at it. But without it you can't look at anything else." -G.K. Chesterton
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