for the record (re: guns thread)

So if we banned guns in the USA that would solve our problem.If so why did the reports in Britain show the 40% increase in crimes with guns in 4 years after handgun's were banned in 1997?Page not found | National Review

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

There are thousands of people in the US that could kill you with their bare hands before you could pull a revolver from your purse and shoot them. Our armed forces teach people how to do this all the time. The US ranks 8th and Switzerland ranks 19th murders per capita with a gun.Why is it that Jamaica with a handgun ban and only 1% of the people able to qualify to own a gun ranked 3rd behind only South Africa and Colombia in murders per capita. The Constitution grantees my rights to own and bear arms so that I can protect myself from my government and criminals of any type if it becomes necessary.I don't know about the rest of you folks but they can have my guns when they pry them from my hands after I am dead.BTW I have shot squirrels for food with my 22 pistol. When on the farm I used the 22 pistol to kill hogs on hog killing day. Single shot each animal. Weapons have many uses.

YesGrenades and plastic even more massive potential.Our forefathers fought (and many of them died) for freedom from government oppression, and because of that they put the 2nd amendment in the constitution.Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. NoteA well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.It does not say the Militia has the right. It says the People have the right.The problem is how do you limit what arms a person is able to own without infringing on the rights of the people. The only legal way is to amend the constitution, which has to be ratified by 2/3 rds of the states.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

It does protect the possesion of arms. The only way to change it is a constitutional amendment. Requiring radification by 2/3 rd's of the states.My weapon of choice is a bolt action springfield. You can get it in the mud, water, whatever. I can clean it in less than 2 minutes blindfolded. It is accurate at 500 yds to the point I can put 10 holes in a target at rapid fire that you can cover with your hand.I would dare say there are hundreds of thousands of trained x military that can do the same. So don't sell the American People Short.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

I thought the church and state was the same then.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Actually 32,969 in 2003 last year I can find.nator should we ban auto's?
http://www.iii.org/media/hottopics/insurance/test5/ May 24, 2005 http://www.consumersunion.org/..._product_safety/002257.html You can ban my automobile and take it away from me. But not my right to own and bear arms.There is a lot of misconceptions about what a government can do when the citizens are unarmed.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Jon as I remember landmines weren't that good at taking out human targets. It was ok for tanks and other vehicles.A 30 cal or 60 cal machine gun would be much better to take out human targets.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

My weapon of choice to fight with is a Springfield 30 cal. bolt action military rifle. I like it because of it's accuracy and the environment it can withstand and still be operational.But everyone is not qualified expert marksman with one of these weapons. But with an m16 they would be just as lethal because of the extra round capability.I notice you didn't mention the 170,000,000 people killed in the 87 years from 1900-1987 by their own governments. That comes to about 1 every 16.17 seconds.This is the reason I said you can ban my automobile even take it away from me. But to get my guns there would only be one way like I posted in an earlier post. Message 223

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."