I've been wondering if I should make a serious attempt to try to explain why some of us are overjoyed at the death of this beast. But I don't think I could do it nearly so eloquently as Hitch did last night on CNN:
Ok, remind me to organize a support rally and rememberance for the great evils of our time... mainly Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.
This love thy enemy thing looks good and all, but it's getting a bit rediculous, don't you think?
Shame on you guys; full-fledged adults shouldn't need the hot-headed (and recently-dubbed 'pro-gunner')college freshmen to remind them not to say mean things.
I haven't said anything mean about Falwell, now that the man is dead. I'm not going to say anything mean about him anytime soon. However, people have a right to say whatever the hell they want to say about the man, especially since he was a very big part of an organization that's responsible for much bigotry and sexism in an otherwise free country that is suppose to be the world's leader in equal rights and freedom for all.
Again, this love thy enemy crap looks good on paper. I suggest you wait till you have more life experience before telling other people to apply this ideal in their lives.
A person may be, to hate them (especially when they're too dead to cause further harm) only reciprocates what made them so evil in our eyes.
This is where you are wrong. He may be dead, but the evil he beset upon this nation will remain for many many years after his death. Because of this man, christianity will continue to be shoved down my throat and my children's throats. Because of this man, people will continue to hate gay people for many years to come. Because of this man, women will remain nothing more than sexual objects in the eyes of many. This is happening at the time when we are suppose to set an example for the rest of the world how equal rights and freedom are suppose to be a good thing. And most important of all, because of this man, I have stopped believing in democracy for a few years now.
People saying bad things about him after his death is a small price for him to pay for all the evils he's put in this world.
We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current.
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Yes, when one looks upon the life and mind of Jerry Falwell, one can really only reach one inescapable conclusion: Christians have it so rough.
Wow, I can't even type that without throwing up in my mouth a little.
You think Falwell the cancelor and founder of a large university and pastor of a large church earned more than the average chancelor/large church pastor? I doubt you even know his salary. I went through 9 pages of google on Falwell hate sites in search of his salary and found nothing. Likly the ones who know don't want it out that he's not gouging as are CEOs of business et al. It would spoil their hate Falwell agenda.
Until the recent homosexual revolution and until the recent women's lib movement, the most blessed nation on earth faired quite well under the things Falwell espoused before he died.
We were doing pretty damned well before Bush and the fundies came into power again, actually. You know...budget surplusses, a booming economy, people being accepted rather than being reviled...
It's Biblicalists who are loosing religious freedoms.
Only if "religious freedom" is translated to mean "the ability to force Christianty to non-Christians," then yes, they've lost that. I view it as a gain, personally. State-sponsored religion has never ended well for those who don't follow the state's religion.
Btw, you need to cite how the nation is worse off by the Biblical stuff Falwell preaches regarding women and gays. It appears that things are getting worse in the nation with more devastating catastrophes et al. There are numerous Biblical texts that verify Falwell's contention that devious lifestyles and pagan practices bring on judgement by God and are not condusive to national blessing. The Bible is full of texts on this.
Sodom and Gomorrah are one example of God's judgement on sodomy. Btw, it is Biblical that the leadership role of the man is the natural and good thing for cultures, so don't blame the preacher. Blame God and the Bible if you have a problem with that.
So, there it is. You actually believe that God punishes the country for allowing homosexuals to exist. Hurricane Katrina, September 11th, and any other number of tragedies and disasters are directly because we don't all follow the same homophobic fairy tale you do. Buttsex causes natural disasters. Lesbians cause terrorism.
Next you'll say IEDs in Iraq are God's punishment, as well, and start thanking God for His Holy Vengeance. God will kill all of the rectally fornicating heathens! God hates fags! God hates America!
You are exactly the same sort of monster that Falwell was and Phelps is. You disgust me just as much as those other bigots.
I won't suggest that you be silent, because I believe in free speech and freedom of religion. But I will never reply to another post of yours. You disgust me, and are not worth my time.
Every time a fundy breaks the laws of thermodynamics, Schroedinger probably kills his cat.
You think Falwell the cancelor and founder of a large university and pastor of a large church earned more than the average chancelor/large church pastor? I doubt you even know his salary.
I doubt I was even talking about his salary. But you keep on doin' your thing, man.
"I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
i will say the same thing i said in my personal journal. may my god be more merciful to him than his god would be to me. i can't believe that people who profess to follow the words of a man who said to love and give your life for your neighbors would support and extoll such a creature. i can't believe the kinds of things that people will support because of a book. i can't believe that a god who calls himself love would reward people who have fought so hard to restrict the rights and destroy the lives of so many people. i wasn't sentient then, so i didn't know that falwell was among those who supported apartheid. i am horrified, but not surprised. if you who defend him even had the slimmest idea of what apartheid involved you would take back each of your supportive words. apartheid was genocide and i am ashamed of you. inform yourself.
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped [9/11] happen.'" - Jerry Falwell, September 13, 2001, on The 700 Club
That's right, September 11th was the fault of the gays! And the Feminists, and the ACLU, and anyone else who believes in religious freedom instead of Christian Theocracy.
How do you get from helped (9/11) happen, to it was the fault of?
That is a pretty good leap.
telling someone their natural, sexual orientation is wrong and evil is, in fact, wrong and evil. The source of the sentiment is irrelevant.
I am glad that the first 2 humans were not gay. If they had been I would not be here neither would you.
"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
It's a common misunderstanding that homosexuals are sterile.
This is untrue. Homosexuals have children the exact same way that heterosexuals do - the sperm of a man combines with the ovum of a woman, and the woman carries the child to term. Being gay causes neither azoospermia in males nor prevents menstruation in females.
Honestly, ICANT. The vast, vast number of homosexuals with children - their own natural birth children - should have been sufficient to dispel the myth of "gay sterility." Don't you think things through before you post them?
How does "had not a damn thing to do with...." equate to "helped it happen?" Was it not Saudi terrorists that hijacked those planes? Not lesbians or feminists? Wasn't it people from a place that they kill guys if they find them boinking each other? Wasn't it guys who viewed Christianity as an enemy as big as America?
Note also that the ACLU defended Pat Robertson in a case a few years back....
Because of this man, christianity will continue to be shoved down my throat and my children's throats.
Taz I have been preaching since 1962 and I have yet to come across a person I can shove christianity down their throat. Care to explain how that can happen?
I don't think a live person can do that much less a dead one.
"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
I don't give a shit if it's disrespectful. I say "fuck Jerry Falwell". Today is a day to rejoice!
Although I'm on your side here... just for shits, I thought it might be fun to fire up the ol' WAYBAC machine.
quote:However, it goes against everything I believe to criticize a man or woman during the period when family and friends are mourning their death. I would observe the same formality no matter who died, except perhaps for a murderer or rapist.
I bring this up not to make fun of Berberry. I'm not so gone that I carry a message board grudge for three years. But perhaps those who are turning their noses up about how disrespectful it is to speak ill of the dead might do well to take a poke at the difference between his reaction to those two events, and realize that they too might change their tune if the dead person had a greater impact on their own life.
"I know some of you are going to say 'I did look it up, and that's not true.' That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut." -Stephen Colbert
Honestly, ICANT. The vast, vast number of homosexuals with children - their own natural birth children - should have been sufficient to dispel the myth of "gay sterility." Don't you think things through before you post them?
If the first 2 humans were men and they were gay where would you be?
If the first 2 humans were women and they were lesbians where would you be?
So who said anything about them being able to reproduce.
I think for us to be here the first 2 humans was a man and a woman and they produced ofspring, or am I being my usual stupid self in believing that?
"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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