Euthyprho's Dilemma Deflated

There is no absolute truth or absolute morality. Or, at least so far, no one has been able to present such a critter.Morality is simply a religious concept and of not much use or value outside the small and limited viewpoint of a particular religious community.Truth is another thing. There are things which can be proven to be true, for example, certain mathematical models, others which are true within a given set of conditions. But so far no one has been able to show the existence of any "Absolute Truth".Even Kant's Categorical Imperatives are laid out in relative terms. Kant suggested that an Imperative was some action or inaction that would be required. However, what action or inaction is required will depend on what the relative circumstance is in reality of that moment.While Kant's philosophy is useful for the trivialities of life, "If I am thirsty I must drink to satisfy my thirst", they fall apart when faced with anything more complex. As an example, when many are thirsty and there is insufficient fluids to meet even the minimal needs of the whole group.Kant can't. Get it?Right and wrong, not morality are the things of importance.But...what is right and what is wrong depends totally on what is known to the decisions maker about all of the conditions of the situation at that moment in time. In almost all cases, all of the information needed to make a right choice is not available, so decisions must be made on partial information, often in a split second, often in too short a period of time for full consideration. Almost always the best that can be done is try to make the best choice out of a range of known available options.Reason is key. But unfortunately, reason is also limited to available knowledge and that, is relative.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Fine. If so, then present it for examination.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Sorry, nothing but empty assertion, irrelevant to the thread or discussion, and without any support.You said: If there is such a thing, then present it so that it can be examined.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

One of the nice things about writing stuff like the Dialogues is that YOU get to frame both sides of the discussion. It makes life so easy.The facts are that no one, not any one of us, actually know shit about what the God or God's want.Further, what motivates "Good" is far less important, IMHO totally unimportant, when compared with what is "Good" in a given situation.For that reason, the whole question is irrelevant and frankly, beyond sophomoric late evening debates, pretty much uninteresting.Should we instead be asking how in a given situation we build a hierarchy of choices, from best to worst?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Because neither you or anyone else has presented any evidence that it does exist. If it cannot be presented or argued, then honestly, it is simply not worth considering.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Of course I can.A good example is the one I posed of resource allocation.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

If "Morality does not exist when people are reduced to a state of survival" then it is not an absolute.If -mess is right, he is wrong.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I can see equal rights, equal treatment, equal protection.But equal respect?Does respect stem from simply existing and being human, or is respect something that should be earned?Should someone who does not treat others equally, provide equal protection to others, allow others equal rights be respected?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion