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Topic: On being ill-informed
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 3 of 54 (3868)
02-08-2002 4:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by toff
02-08-2002 3:13 AM
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more discriminating generalizations.... (shudder). ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 5 of 54 (3949)
02-09-2002 11:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 4 by gene90
02-09-2002 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by gene90:
Actually Toff's post doesn't do justice to many things some Creationists seem to believe evolution is. He is being too generous for most Creationists, not making "bad generalizations".
any generalization is bad and is discrimination anyway you take it but you can have your own opinion. ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 9 of 54 (4012)
02-10-2002 4:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 8 by gene90
02-10-2002 1:52 PM
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(shudders and then mumbles something about discriminating generalizations.) ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 13 of 54 (4017)
02-10-2002 5:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 11 by LudvanB
02-10-2002 5:23 PM
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which is why i tend to distance myself from religion and more towards constant faith in god, at least that why i feel that i actually have faith in him. the same goes for science; research and do everything you can to form your own understanding not just follow the general trend because everyone else does. i am in no way moderate either, i more than likely have more faith in god then they do. its just that i dont care about some dumb technicality in the bible, so what if its off on few things it was written thousands of years ago when we had less understanding of life and the universe. i know that it was changed to fit in more for the average person and even then theres only so much we can totally comprehend. ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 18 of 54 (4028)
02-10-2002 8:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 17 by Percy
02-10-2002 7:17 PM
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lol!!! ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 21 of 54 (4041)
02-10-2002 10:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 20 by gene90
02-10-2002 9:26 PM
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yeah heres another approriate einstein quote "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." former means first for those without a large vocabulary. ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 23 of 54 (4046)
02-10-2002 10:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 22 by gene90
02-10-2002 10:18 PM
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what the hell is that suppose to mean? i meant first in that sentence, i was dumbing it down for all you non-believing inbreeding evolutionists!!! eat some of your own generalized discrimination crap! stop being so literal, pull finger out your bumhole and relax a bit, geez man. ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 26 of 54 (4053)
02-10-2002 10:38 PM
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i can agree with it as well, i hope i wasnt too excessive in my last post. ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 28 of 54 (4057)
02-10-2002 10:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 27 by gene90
02-10-2002 10:41 PM
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yeah im not that judging, lol ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 31 of 54 (4129)
02-11-2002 10:01 AM
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Reply to: Message 30 by toff
02-11-2002 9:27 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by toff:
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Originally posted by TrueCreation:
"I've seen some really awful ones along these lines. For instance, I was trying to explain plate tectonics to a creationist. After a while, I realized he thought that we 'evolutionists' were claiming that continents float in the ocean like leaves."
--You obviously need to talk to another creationist, hehe, whoever it was you were talking to hasent a clue about Earth/Marine Geology and Plate Tectonics. You see much of this around because they are simply trying to say something you arent interested in.
He sees much of it around because there IS much of it around. Creationists are, as a rule, pathetically ignorant of science in general and evolutionary theory in particular.
eat me toff, seriously eat me..... ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 36 of 54 (4292)
02-12-2002 6:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 35 by toff
02-12-2002 2:17 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by toff:
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Originally posted by TrueCreation:
--There you go again, I sustain my argument against your assertion, unless you can make it a little more reasonable (I would advise a new argument actually), creationists are not 'as a rule', 'pethetically ignorant of science in general', nore are we ignorant of 'evolutionary theory in particular', If you wan't to direct this towards someone else be my guest, then it won't be so generalized and ignorantly proposed.
Umm....WHAT argument? As far as I can see, you haven't made one. You've just complained about any number of peripheral points, without addressing my actual question. And, sorry, but, as I say, according to my (fairly wide, stretching across multiple levels of society and many types of christians, creationists ARE, as a rule, pathetically ignorant of science in general and evolutionary theory in particular.
you have got to be the dumbest living person alive, toff. you just complained to and didnt give your all powerful proof behind your accusations. anymore of this bull and ill just stop responding to your mindless, arrogant, ignorant, good for nothing, idiotic, inbred posts. sorry to all those were offended (excluding toff of course). ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 38 of 54 (4406)
02-13-2002 3:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 37 by toff
02-13-2002 6:06 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by toff:
Always nice to see a 'loving christian' reveal his true colours. Unable to debate, he relies instead on insult and ad hominem. How sad...and what a wonderful witness for his alleged god.
i was being sarcastic of course and whenever you debate and proven wrong you can just change the mechanisms of the theory and make it correct. theres no ground to gained for either of us. i never said i was loving or christian either. i said i was faithful believer of Christ and that i believed the bible but i was not a creationist, since i dont see much purpose in science other than to understand God better. ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 40 of 54 (4409)
02-13-2002 4:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 39 by joz
02-13-2002 4:09 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Interesting how can you not be a christian and yet still be a "faithfull believer of christ".... Trust me bud given the content of your posts to these boards you are a creationist....
im not a strong supporter of religion, thats why i dont consider myself christian and i dont believe much of either side of the creation/evolution debate. ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
"im not a strong supporter of religion, thats why i dont consider myself christian and i dont believe much of either side of the creation/evolution debate."
--For one, Jesus himself hated religion, its one of the only things that made him angry in his life.
--Second, what is it about Creation don't you accept, I believe we've heard what you don't accept about Evolution.
well i just think that creation takes the bible to literally and tries to use it as history guide, which it isnt. it just gives you an understanding of how things occur and what and who were the forces and reasons behind them. on a funny note im in like three different religion youth groups: baptist, lutheran, and assembly of god; and i just thinks it stupid how they usually say theyre theyre the only ones that are right and that they are the true religion. lutheran is what i can stand the most though because in my church we arent forced into anything and they dont tell us what to believe, they still however instruct us on how we should live and thats what they should be doing. i still dont enjoy religion nearly as much as i enjoy faith and love of christ and from christ. society has however made me doubtful of my own existence in any form; im not sure if im actually here anymore. any thoughts? ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi [This message has been edited by KingPenguin, 02-14-2002]
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KingPenguin
Member (Idle past 7902 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: 02-04-2002
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Message 48 of 54 (4511)
02-14-2002 3:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 46 by toff
02-14-2002 2:24 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by toff:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by KingPenguin: And gee, after your brilliant reply to me earlier, your credibility is at such a high point. You are a christian, a creationist, and a hypocrite. [/b][/QUOTE] at least i know when to stop being a juvenile and know when to admit ive made mistakes. ------------------ "Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi [This message has been edited by KingPenguin, 02-14-2002]
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