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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
quote: Yes one can if one is at the pinnacle of human reasoning.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Because "boredom" is not a medical condition. Neither is depression. Depression is a psychological condition, which is why psychiatrists are the ones who prescribe for it. There's no diagnostic test for depression - or rather, the only test is "prescribe SSRI's and see if it goes away."
"Wanting to get high" isn't a disorder at all. Says you. If it's an undesired state interfering with normal functioning - you know, like hunger can be: "OMG I'm so hungry I can't even think!" - then clearly it's a condition that reasonable adults should have the option to have "treated." Especially when we're talking about drugs that are completely natural and non-toxic, like cannabis.
"Wanting to bodily harm someone when they really piss you off" isn't a disorder either. I'm sure your husband can tell you what thoughts of aggression, violence, and rage constitute. It's enough of a disorder that when a person has those feelings a lot, we mandate treatment for them.
Anxiety and restless leg syndrome, however, can interfere with all aspects of a person's life and can even shorten one's life. C'mon. "Restless leg syndrome" shortens people's lives?
No one has ever literally been bored to death. Nobody's literally ever been anxious to death, either. And the vast majority of people with depression don't kill themselves; clearly you're very accepting of medications to treat a number of quasi-conditions - yet, you're dubious of the idea of taking drugs for pleasure, unless it's a certain narrow list of "ok" drugs, like caffeine and alcohol - both of which are thousands of times more dangerous and deadly than, say, marijuana - upon which it is impossible to overdose.
Then you were probably hastily misdiagnosed and prescribed a medication that you didn't need. There was nothing hasty about it. I saw several mental health professionals and consulted our family's doctor, who had known me since birth. They all agreed that I should start taking Celexa - because taking the drug is the only diagnostic test for depression. And it isn't even a reliable diagnostic. Plenty of people with "real" depression don't respond to SSRI's - because they don't really know how they work.
I don't think they should hand out drugs like candy for emotional problems. Why? Because you have a moral objection to pharmacology? If a remedy is cheap, effective, and has limited side effects, from what basis would you deny someone "the easy way" to treat an undesirable condition? Your own moral belief that suffering makes us better people? Makes our lives meaningful? Why do you let people medicate themselves with caffeine? Surely being tired from not getting enough sleep isn't a "disorder", either? But you don't have a problem with that use of psychoactive drugs, do you?
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
You won't be able to debate any topic when you're drunk, subbie.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Yes one can if one is at the pinnacle of human reasoning. A position you no doubt consider yourself to hold. How blessed are we that you would deign to shine the light of your sun down upon us lowly, benighted savages!
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
As I said, you name it, as long as I'm moderately familiar with it.
Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
As much as I am enriching all of your lives, I must tend to my own personal projects. Good luck to you all.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Chicken!
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Or eat sugar to excess. But you do have some, which makes you as immoral as the rest of us, I guess. (As if we didn't already know that.)
No, we can't. My statement ends it. Why? It's correct. "I'm right because I say I'm right." Who knew that the pinnacle of human reasoning was indistinguishable from second-grade playground antics?
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
quote: That's the stupidest thing I have ever read. Sugar doesn't impair one's ability to reason. Edited by -messenjah of one, : sentence
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JustinC Member (Idle past 4844 days) Posts: 624 From: Pittsburgh, PA, USA Joined: |
I think its time we all ignore MOO's trolling.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Sugar doesn't impair one's ability to reason. At your age, it does.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
In excess, perhaps. But an orange most certainly doesn't impair my ability to reason.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
But an orange most certainly doesn't impair my ability to reason. No, in your case it's definitely something else. Only you can tell us why the reasoning you're displaying in these posts is so impaired.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Nice, hopping around the fact that you are wrong.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
No, it's your double standard. You're the one who's talking about how immoral it is to make changes to your brain chemistry, but every time you eat a meal, that's exactly what you're doing.
Of course, you've moved the goalposts - now it's "impaired reason", and the only person who gets to determine if reason is impaired is you. This, after you proclaimed yourself the pinnacle of human thought. Uh-huh.
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