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Author Topic:   A Deteriorating State :: Morality in the 21st Century
Modulous
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Message 5 of 65 (401307)
05-19-2007 6:30 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Jon
05-19-2007 6:00 AM


Re: Morality in the 21st Centurty
The only people who are true to what is known are the Agnostics.
Looks like you haven't been paying much attention to what atheists have been saying recently. There are very few people who hold the position 'I believe no god exists'. Even Richard Dawkins does not hold this position. He holds the position that 'I don't believe that any god exists, they could exist, but then any unfalsifiable proposition could be true, thus any described deity could also exist - as well as Russell's teapot, IPUs FSMs...'. Dawkins even points out that there are very few people who will say they are agnostic about Russell's teapot.
The only people who are true to what is known are the Cartesians. Agnostics believe in the existance of tables, and fridge magnets and roads, and Duran Duran - yet they cannot know for sure they exist - they have only their flawed 'senses' to tell them.
Modern atheists demand evidence before they will accept a position as being worthy of consideration. Agnostics are either the same, or they single out religion as being worthy of special consideration when it comes to unfalsifiable propositions.

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Modulous
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Message 61 of 65 (401792)
05-22-2007 7:26 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by nator
05-22-2007 7:12 AM


Re: Morality in the 21st Centurty
The fundamentalist says, "I think my morality is the only correct one and anyone who thinks differently is evil/going to hell."
As far as I am concerned that's fine. It's what comes next that bothers me. The '...since they are going to hell, and I am obligated to help people not go to hell, the state should legislate morality and sanction anyone who is immoral so as to help them and others not go to hell OR I should take things into my own hands by...[killing abortion doctors, bullying homosexuals, flying a commercial plane into a populated building etc etc]

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