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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5032 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
I tried to find our past discussions of D-Day but failed hence this..
quote: quote: See also for what is happening in Itahca, NY:Home | Cornell Chronicle The web page at PRI looks like an add for Red Bull. If you’ve got dodo wings see:Just a moment... Aside from something interesting in “evolutionary psychology” it seems that there will be nothing new except an attempt to vindicate Kitcher’s cost of “Living with Darwin” at Cornell Cinema with the film on Dodos and ID.
Kitcher's book on Amazon I will watch it and report back. DS Wilson will be speaking and that ought to be interesting. I sat in a small discussion session with him in the 80s, this will just be a “big” one. The ironic thing is that one of the events will be held the “Call” hall but Dean Call is a strident Presbyterian at the Church I attend. This will never register to anyone except in a derisionary way unfortunately, I suspect. Instead Call may be speaking on Earth Day at the Church. Theiscost is too much for people to think that 4 or 6 dollars streches from Darwin Day to Earth Day, so whatever the message in the movie is, it will not pay for anyone’s struggle to survive for the period the show encloses(really only Friday). Here is a link to the general "celebration."About Darwin Day - Darwin Day
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CK Member (Idle past 4127 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
1) born on the same day as me
2) born 10 miles away from me 3) Shares same first name Well they are interesting to me at least!
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subbie Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Aside from something interesting in “evolutionary psychology” it seems that there will be nothing new except an attempt to vindicate Kitcher’s cost of “Living with Darwin” at Cornell Cinema with the film on Dodos and ID. Kitcher's book on Amazon I will watch it and report back. I had the very great privilege to take a few classes with Dr. Kitcher at the U of Minnesota in the mid 80s, and even attended a debate between him and Duane Gish. Thanks for making me aware of this book, I think I know what I'm going to do with some of the birthday money I got from my in-laws. I will spend this with great relish, given that I noticed a while back that my father-in-law was reading some Dembsky drivel. I'd be delighted to hear your report, Brad. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5032 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
I am sorry to report that the panel discussion on Evolution, Eugenics and Beyond at Cornell this afternoon made a mockery of the "British" accent especially in the pronunciation of "Galton", and there was wishful thinking that the meeting between Darwin's cousin and A. D. White, co-founder of Cornell, would have resulted in something other than a cordial hello and goodbye.
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5032 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
Well it turns out I was wayyyy ahead of myself.
Neither DS Wilson (who signed my copy of "Darwin's Cathedral" nor Will Provine had read Kitcher's latest book.
I asked Wilson if he had read Kitcher's book and if he agreed with it's ideas on religion or not. He did not comment since he had not read it and asked me to rephrase the question. So I simply stated that Kitcher was clamining that ID and Genesis Creatonism was not to him an issue of "science" or not science but that Phillip said there was none, that what Wilson had Labled "the side show" in his slide presentation (ID and Creationism as one side show and Dawkins anti-religion as another one(he offered anyone a paper on why he felt Dawkins was wrong about religion)) was "Dead Science" or as I phrased it, "extinct." It turns out that there is an even more varigated relation among living evolutionists than I thought. There IS some disconnect between Will and David. It is hard to trace. David's answer to me was that neither Genesis Creationism nor ID has produced an "adaptive" contribution, namely that it had not produced results that went onto further results and thus could be discounted. He was quick however to say that he did acknowledge that believers were trying to grapple with difficult issues but when it came to his own version of evolutionary theory Provine took him to task saying that what he and Ed Wilson were working on was not really evolution since it was cultural. Anyway it was quite instructive to me as I had seen both David and Will 20 years ago and could compare to my since then reading of the creationist literature. David was really mostly describing the change in perspective FROM standard evolutionary theory to the wider one of cultural evolution ( as I notice in "niche constructors" as well) but Will stuck to a comment on MEMES against DS...so it is all hard to explain quickly, espcially as I see a potential wedge between Wilson and Wilson and Provine and Dakwins as to the issue of spirtuality that Kitcher rasies in his book. If the world is really ready for "evolutionary religon" then it seems to me that Genesis Creationism and ID must not be "dead" and so it will be interesting if one finds that Wilson&Wilson can outcompete Dakwins&Provine as ID parleys with Genesis Creationism. I thought the future of faith that living with Darwin costs aka Kitcher was one that would be answerable in the short term but now I see that it is not one to be resolved in my generation. This is something that developed AFTER I was taught evolution by Grandfather in the 70s. In fact DS Wilson's talk was mostly on how to really get past NOT the issue of creation vs evolution in public but what what David Sloan Wilson called the "2nd" Wall to acceptance of evolution coming from right within secular universities. He previewed for us this information that is coming out in a new book by him. Edited by Brad McFall, : No reason given. Edited by Brad McFall, : book image
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bgmark2 Member (Idle past 6158 days) Posts: 18 Joined: |
Yes soon it will be his 150 aniversary of printing his famous book origin of the species. Darwin released his theory of evolution in 1858 AD and published it in 1859 exactly 150 years after this date is 2008 or 2009 AD. This book that Darwin published is a major sorce for disbelief in God.
If each day is a month being 30 days and if one day can be used to signify one year in Bible prophecy, as has been used by the Lord before in Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6. then the 5 months in Revelations 9:5 would end in 2008/2009 with the return of the Lord. The sting like a scorpion, in Revelations 9 is referring to disbelief in God or skepticism metaphorically. Of course this disbelief and skeptism will end when the Lord returns, as 'every knee shall bow'. But first there must be a nuclear war unfortunately. What about coconuts?
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5032 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
D-Day is once again apon us.
Here in Ithaca, The Ecological Society of America, which publishes out of our city had this to say
< !--UB quote:-->< !--UB quote:--> quote:< !--UE--> Meanwhile, the Palentological Research Insititue in cooperation with Cornell is putting on the followin fairly concentrated program which includes Lynn Margulis: Monday, Feb. 11 - Performance of "Reesign," at Cornell's Uris Hall Auditorium, 7 p.m. "Reesign" is a one-act play performed by the Menagerie Theater Company that dramatizes 30 years of correspondence between Charles Darwin in Kent, England, and Harvard botanist Asa Gray in Boston. This work is adapted from their own words and offers a window into the minds of these two groundbreaking 19th century naturalists, as they debate the consequences for religious beliefs of Darwin's new theory of evolution by natural selection. This play was commissioned by the Darwin Correspondence Project of Cambridge University, England. A portion of it can be seen on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-qViHvIUlU. Tuesday, Feb. 12 - "Evolutionary Biology in the 21st Century: What Would Darwin Think?" at Cornell's Kaufman Auditorium in Goldwin Smith Hall at 5 p.m., a lecture by Richard Harrison, chair of Cornell's Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. Thursday, Feb. 14 - "Are We Changing Evolution?" in Cornell's Biotech Building, Room G-10, at 4 p.m., a panel of experts discuss how human activities are changing the direction and rate of future evolution. Thursday, Feb. 14 - "Darwin's Truths and Symbiogenesis," at Cornell's Biotech Building, Room G-10, at 7 p.m., a lecture by Lynn Margulis, Distinguished University Professor in the Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts, Amherst. Friday, Feb. 15 - "Genetically Modified Organisms and Evolution," at Cornell's Lewis Auditorium in Goldwin Smith Hall at 5 p.m., a panel of experts discuss what, if any, are the implications of genetically modified organisms for future evolutionary change. Saturday, Feb. 16 - Darwin Family Day at the Museum of the Earth, 11 a.m. - 3 p.m. Special activities and programs for children and their families. Admission is $8 for adults, $4 for youth (ages 4 to 17). Children ages 3 and under, as well as museum members, get in free.Saturday, Feb. 16 - "Why Darwin Still Matters," at the Museum of the Earth, noon, a lecture by Warren Allmon, director of the Paleontological Research Institution. Admission is $8 for adults, $4 for young people (ages 4-17). Children ages 3 and under, as well as museum members, get in free. Saturday, Feb. 16 - Darwin's Birthday Party at the Museum of the Earth, 6:30-8:30 p.m., includes food, beverages, selections from Darwin's favorite music, merriment galore, and a reading of Darwin's unpublished works and letters by Warren Allmon and Sheila Dean, of the Darwin Correspondence Project. RSVP to degen@museumoftheearth.org or call (607) 273-6623, Ext. 11. Free admission. Sunday, Feb. 17 - Screening of the 2003 film "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World," at Cornell's Willard Straight Hall Theater at 7:15 p.m. Warren Allmon will introduce this popular Hollywood film and discuss its evolution subthemes. Admission: $6.50 for adults, $5 for seniors, and $4 for students and children.
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