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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
One_Charred_Wing writes:
Ok, remind me to organize a support rally and rememberance for the great evils of our time... mainly Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc. No matter how evil
This love thy enemy thing looks good and all, but it's getting a bit rediculous, don't you think?
Shame on you guys; full-fledged adults shouldn't need the hot-headed (and recently-dubbed 'pro-gunner')college freshmen to remind them not to say mean things.
I haven't said anything mean about Falwell, now that the man is dead. I'm not going to say anything mean about him anytime soon. However, people have a right to say whatever the hell they want to say about the man, especially since he was a very big part of an organization that's responsible for much bigotry and sexism in an otherwise free country that is suppose to be the world's leader in equal rights and freedom for all. Again, this love thy enemy crap looks good on paper. I suggest you wait till you have more life experience before telling other people to apply this ideal in their lives.
A person may be, to hate them (especially when they're too dead to cause further harm) only reciprocates what made them so evil in our eyes.
This is where you are wrong. He may be dead, but the evil he beset upon this nation will remain for many many years after his death. Because of this man, christianity will continue to be shoved down my throat and my children's throats. Because of this man, people will continue to hate gay people for many years to come. Because of this man, women will remain nothing more than sexual objects in the eyes of many. This is happening at the time when we are suppose to set an example for the rest of the world how equal rights and freedom are suppose to be a good thing. And most important of all, because of this man, I have stopped believing in democracy for a few years now. People saying bad things about him after his death is a small price for him to pay for all the evils he's put in this world. We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current. Disclaimer: Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style. He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
Here you go again with your persecution complex. If anything, christians are in the majority in this country. People like Rahvin, schraf, and myself are in the tiny minority. Heck, even the democratic party is as homophobic as you are, Buz. AMERICA IS PERSECUTING THE PROPHETS/PREACHERS WHO WARNED THEM OF THE WRATH TO COME. But if you really really want to be persecuted, please sign yourself and your fellow prophets up to be eaten by lions. I'm sure us atheists who are a tiny minority can arrange such a show. We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current. Disclaimer: Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style. He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
PaulK writes:
Jesus does say repeatedly in the NT to avoid sexual immorality mentioned in the OT. Sexual immorality in the OT includes man on man hairy ass sex. there is no reference to Jesus himself condemning homosexuality at all. I used to try to point out that the bible doesn't condemn homosexuality. Frankly, the other side eventually convinced me that the bible does indeed look down on gaydom. Edited by Tazmanian Devil, : No reason given. We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current. Disclaimer: Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style. He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Well, just because I'm a heretic doesn't mean I can't be fair. But consider this for a moment. If we take this route of Jesus mentioning sexual immorality from the OT, we'd have to also conclude that spilling one's seed on the ground is sinful along with oral sex and such.
We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current. Disclaimer: Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style. He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Guys, why are you arguing? This is like trying to convince the Chinese that pizza is better than tofu. You guys are arguing based on completely different points of view. Get over it. Why not just agree to disagree?
We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current. Disclaimer: Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style. He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
That's not what I'm saying at all. By all mean, keep at it if you want. But right now, you guys are doing little better than the classic "is too" "is not" "is too" "is not"...
Ok, I think Falwell was an evil man for condeming people who had never done a thing to him or his family. He's left us a legacy of evil that will take us generations to get rid of. But to someone like buzsaw, what I call evil he calls good. In order to have a good debate, we first at least must start somewhere where we can agree. If you guys want this to be more effective, why not argue over *why* Falwell did more damage than good? Instead, you guys have been throwing back and forth "is too" "is not" "is too" "is not"... But again, by all means ignore me if you want to continue with it. Have at it. We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current. Disclaimer: Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style. He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
I'm not implying it. I'm saying it. Slavery is evil. Segregation is evil. Sexism is evil. If you want, I can provide a list several pages long that our founding fathers thought good but we now generally accept as evil.
You appear to be implying that the founders and majority of Americans in the history of our nation were evil. Further you are implying that these principles are what you and coming generations must work to get rid of.
Well, take a look at slavery, for example. It took a civil war of many long years to get rid of. Take a look of segregation. It took many years of hard work for people to get rid of it. Women's rights also come to mind.
Likely the secularist dictator murderers who ruled the the Communist block nations via rod of iron violence and who last century outlawed the Bible and murdered a hundred million of their own citizens would agree with you that the Biblical principles Falwell advocated should be gotten rid of.
So Buz, since the nazis were health freaks, do you advocate we all try to get as fat as possible? The nazis were environmentalist freaks, so do you advocate we do everything we can to trash our environment?
Btw, slavery is a practice that, until Americans outlawed it nearly a century and a half ago, has been a practice to some degree, common to most cultures of mankind ever since the recording of history began.
Yes, and it's still evil no matter what excuse you want to bring to the table. See what I mean, Buz? You and I operate on completely different frequencies. So, I will have to say that I agree to disagree with you. You want to see Falwell as some kind of saint, fine. You have your right to free speech, and I have mine. We are BOG. Resistance is voltage over current. Disclaimer: Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style. He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Your choice of background coloring is giving me a headache.
Disclaimer: Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style. He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!
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