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riVeRraT
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Message 106 of 301 (401824)
05-22-2007 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by berberry
05-22-2007 9:03 AM


Re: Foul-mouthed Brit buys the wrong air conditioner
But unless I'm very much mistaken, the freezing up is a result of his moving the thermostat off the cooling coil.
Yes there is a difference between wet bulb measurements, and dry, but a well designed Evaporator should be able to run 24/7 without freezing, down to a temperature of about 60-65F.
If it was a wetbulb thermometer, the only thing that should have happened, is the thing turning on and off at the wrong temp.
The only mistake he may have made, is that it was not designed to bring down the temp below 75F. We would have to see the specs. It is only a temporary A/C, and not designed up to the task of cooling a room down to the desired temps. But they could have easily designed it to do so.
And the water dripping on the capacitor is likely the result of leaning the unit the wrong way.
Designers of a portable A/C should know that not every floor is level, and then designed the drip pan with enough height, and a shut-off to compensate.
[quote] There is a large tray which collects water condensing on the evaporator matrix. The edges of this tray are only just barely higher than the level of the drain tube. So if the unit is not precisely level, but tilted forward by an imperceptible degree, the collected water, instead of draining down the tube, spills over the edge of the tray and begins to trickle down among the works... [\quote]
I don't know where the drain goes, but the collector pan under the evaporator, is not the same as the pan that collects all the water, and needs to be dumped.

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Message 107 of 301 (401828)
05-22-2007 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 105 by riVeRraT
05-22-2007 10:55 AM


Re: Foul-mouthed Brit buys the wrong air conditioner
Well please explain it to me, rat, cuz I'm totally befuddled. At work, we use a portable air conditioner that matches the discription of the one this guy has. It keeps the elevator equipment cool. And although it does indeed lower the air pressure in the elevator room, that's fine because the air it sucks in comes from the hallway, which is cooled by one of the building's central units. It works beautifully, exactly the way it's supposed to work. I should think it would most certainly NOT work well if you put it in a room with a doorway that leads outside.
Once this dude equalized the air pressure he should have stopped making modifications. Everything he does from that point on seems to me a mistake.
Am I wrong about the thermostat too? Will those thermostats work better if you take them off the coil? I thought that type thermostat was designed to work best mounted on the coil. Am I wrong?

W.W.E.D.?

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RAZD
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Message 108 of 301 (401894)
05-22-2007 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by riVeRraT
05-22-2007 10:55 AM


Re: Foul-mouthed Brit buys the wrong air conditioner
I expected to see a serious chain on mistakes by this guy, but to tell you the truth, the guy is 100% correct in all his assesments.
The funny thing is the way he descibes it.
I often curse out engineers when working on stuff, I got a real kick out of it.
Be careful who you curse. What this guy is cursing is not mistakes or bad design, but the result of bean counters making the AC unit as cheap as possible while maximizing profits. They don't care if the design works well only that it works enough to sell. This guy bought a cheap unit and caveat emptor.
When you are tasked with designing the cheapest possible air conditioner you don't design a machine that is any more than minimal in performance. That's what you have here.

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riVeRraT
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Message 109 of 301 (402168)
05-24-2007 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by berberry
05-22-2007 11:14 AM


Re: Foul-mouthed Brit buys the wrong air conditioner
Ok, you answered your own question.
quote:
that's fine because the air it sucks in comes from the hallway, which is cooled by
Nothing from nothing. You are sucking the cooling from the building, not removing the heat from the room, which is what an air conditioner does.
Once this dude equalized the air pressure he should have stopped making modifications. Everything he does from that point on seems to me a mistake.
Well not the water spilling out the pan.
Am I wrong about the thermostat too? Will those thermostats work better if you take them off the coil? I thought that type thermostat was designed to work best mounted on the coil. Am I wrong?
No, you are probably right, but the thing should not stop cooling, until the desired room temperature is reached, and it should never freeze.
So there may have been another problem, which he corrected by removing the bulb, which may have caused a third problem, or revealed a third problem.
This is one of the things I love most about trouble shooting, and hate it at the same time.
First you have to undo all the mistakes, from all the mechanics before you, then undo the mistake, or break down that happened most recently, then possibly correct a mistake by an engineer.
Room ari conditioners have their bulbs mounted on the coil, but they reached the desired temperature without shutting off the compressor, and the never freeze, unless the temp gets below 60-65f.

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riVeRraT
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Message 110 of 301 (402169)
05-24-2007 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by RAZD
05-22-2007 5:58 PM


Re: Foul-mouthed Brit buys the wrong air conditioner
When you are tasked with designing the cheapest possible air conditioner you don't design a machine that is any more than minimal in performance. That's what you have here.
I did mention, unless it was designed that way.
But $69 window units seem to do a better job than what this guy has.

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riVeRraT
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Message 111 of 301 (402170)
05-24-2007 9:11 PM


How to get to paris, from NY
Go to google maps, and put this in:
new york to paris france
Scroll down to the 21st step in the directions.

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RAZD
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Message 112 of 301 (402173)
05-24-2007 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by riVeRraT
05-24-2007 9:11 PM


Re: How to get to paris, from NY
LOL
choose reverse trip and you get it in kilometers.

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Zhimbo
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Message 113 of 301 (402391)
05-26-2007 9:04 AM


God Hates The World!
Y'know, at first I thought this would be something to post in a Phelps-related thread, but the more I watched it, the more I just giggled at it.
Yes, this is a hateful, awful bunch of people, but they're just...so...ridiculous. And not particularly talented.
http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?autostart=false&token=...">
"you'll eat your kids...(Yeah, you'll EAT 'em!)"
Good stuff.
AbE - AA
not sure why the object isn't coming up for me (others? ) but here is the link
http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?autostart=false&token=...
Edited by Zhimbo, : No reason given.
Edited by AdminAsgara, : added link

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RAZD
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Message 114 of 301 (403658)
06-04-2007 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Zhimbo
05-26-2007 9:04 AM


Re: God Hates The World!
and it's religious nuts that kill their kids to save them ...

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RAZD
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Message 115 of 301 (403659)
06-04-2007 5:31 PM


e-mail joke
recent email:


A lot of folks can't understand how we came
To have an oil shortage here in our country.
~~~
Well, there's a very simple answer.
~~~
Nobody bothered to check the oil.
~~~
We just didn't know we were getting low
~~~
The reason for that is purely geographical.
~~~
Our OIL is located in
~~~
ALASKA
~~~
California
~~~
Coastal Florida
~~~
Coastal Louisiana
~~~
Kansas
~~~
Oklahoma
~~~
Pennsylvania
And
Texas
~~~
Our
DIPSTICKS
Are located in
Washington, DC !!!


Enjoy.

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RAZD
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Message 116 of 301 (403660)
06-04-2007 5:35 PM


Sign
There is a sign on the door to my bathroom for my hospital room here that says:
"Bathrooms
are only to be used
by the patient"
Which is very nice, but I just hope I'm never in a hurry ...
Enjoy.

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Message 117 of 301 (403661)
06-04-2007 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by RAZD
06-04-2007 5:35 PM


Re: Sign
That's why God made bedpans, open windows and vases.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Nighttrain
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Message 118 of 301 (403739)
06-04-2007 11:26 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by RAZD
06-04-2007 5:31 PM


Re: e-mail joke
I can just see you, pumping the patients for their best joke
Best exit I ever saw was my Uncle Harry. Terminal, but there was always a cluster of nurses, docs, etc. hanging around his bed to hear the latest of his humour. Might be the final evo filter? Going out in style? Inspiration to others? What`s that Nil illegitemi carborundum line?

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RAZD
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Message 119 of 301 (403995)
06-06-2007 9:28 AM


BC wisdom
B.C. by Mastroianni and Hart for June 06, 2007 - GoComics
LOL

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Message 120 of 301 (404019)
06-06-2007 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 119 by RAZD
06-06-2007 9:28 AM


Re: BC wisdom
Wow, you may just have found the one funny BC cartoon.
TTFN,
WK
P.S. Maybe I'm just biased because of his anti-evolutionary rubbish.

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