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Buzsaw
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Message 182 of 224 (401761)
05-21-2007 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Taz
05-21-2007 10:04 PM


Re: Bible On Gaydom
TD writes:
Jesus does say repeatedly in the NT to avoid sexual immorality mentioned in the OT. Sexual immorality in the OT includes man on man hairy ass sex.
I used to try to point out that the bible doesn't condemn homosexuality. Frankly, the other side eventually convinced me that the bible does indeed look down on gaydom.
Thanks Taz. Not only that, but it's a given that Jesus proclaimed repeatedly that he always does the Father's will who sent him. There's never a disagreement between them.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 183 of 224 (401769)
05-22-2007 1:05 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by Asgara
05-20-2007 11:55 AM


Re: Those Good Old Days
Maybe we'll get to that again sometime, melady. In the mean time have a look:
http://maps.grida.no/..._trends_in_natural_disasters_004.jpg
Btw, I've been reading a lot in the Bible about how Falwell is right in that sin and rebellion against God's guidelines (GG) brings on wrath and disaster, et al.
Proverbs 1:24-33, ASV
24 Because I have called, and ye have refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man hath regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, And would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh in the day of your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
27 When your fear cometh as a storm, And your calamity cometh on as a whirlwind; When distress and anguish come upon you.
28 Then will they call upon me, but I will not answer; They will seek me diligently, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge, And did not choose the fear of Jehovah:
30 They would none of my counsel; They despised all my reproof.
31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, And be filled with their own devices.
32 For the backsliding of the simple shall slay them, And the careless ease of fools shall destroy them.
33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell securely, And shall be quiet without fear of evil.
And Nahum 1:3-9, relative to the end time wrath of God.
Jehovah is a jealous God and avengeth; Jehovah avengeth and is full of wrath; Jehovah taketh vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.
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3 Jehovah is slow to anger, and great in power, and will by no means clear the guilty : Jehovah hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.
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4 He rebuketh the sea, and maketh it dry, and drieth up all the rivers: Bashan languisheth, and Carmel; and the flower of Lebanon languisheth.
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5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt; and the earth is upheaved at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
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6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his wrath is poured out like fire, and the rocks are broken asunder by him.
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7 Jehovah is good, a stronghold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that take refuge in him.
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8 But with an over-running flood he will make a full end of her place, and will pursue his enemies into darkness.
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9 What do ye devise against Jehovah? he will make a full end ......

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 187 of 224 (401789)
05-22-2007 7:23 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by PaulK
05-22-2007 2:00 AM


Re: A reply to nemesis's "caveat"
Paul, I know the references but we're straying from topic to get into the specifics. You have no case and beating a dead horse. Go to a concordance and you'll find it all. It's obvious that you don't know nearly as much Bible as you try to make folks think you do and it's obvious that you lack the ability to correlate scripture with scripture as is so important in understanding scripture.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 193 of 224 (402054)
05-23-2007 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by PaulK
05-22-2007 8:08 AM


Re: A reply to nemesis's "caveat"
PaulK writes:
It seems not. Unlesss you cnn produce those references and show that they support your claim.
I find that with you it's useless to try and support anything. No matter what I produce, you reject it, regardless of how substantial it is, just like in the Olivet Discourse debate where you apply centuries worth of events to a few decades. You allege it's not prophetic when significant segments of it clearly apply to the latter days. FYI, the discourse goes the whole chapter in all four gospels.
If I produce the references you'll deny as usual with more demands for responses, so don't be surprised if I decline to respond to some of your input.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 195 of 224 (402060)
05-23-2007 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by Rahvin
05-23-2007 9:31 AM


Re: Rahvin's Uncredible Exaggeration
Rahvin writes:
That's right, radically fundamentalist Christianity is just like radically fundamentalist Islam! Who would've guessed?
THIS is why I'm glad Falwell is dead. He inspired this level of hate and intolerance, so much so that even after his death some student at his school planned to blow up people who didn't like Falwell at the funeral.
If Liberty University was Islamic instead of Christian, we'd call it a Madrassa.
Rahvin, this just shows how uncredible and nonsensical some of your stuff is.
One sicko nutcase student out of an enrollment of over 12,000 is found to have some kind of bombs in his car and you take that rare incident and attempt to make a case that Christianity "is just like radically fundamentalist Islam," a religion which has an estimated thousands of terrorists ever waiting in line for their turn to kill as many ordinary citizens as possible by blowing themselves and their victims to pieces as well as injuring other thousands often with the blessings of their influential clerical and political leaders.
Falwell had a role in inspiring all these 12,000 studens as well as scores of thousands of graduates. If Falwell's variety of inspiration "inspired this level of hate and intolerance," how then, can just one out of scores of thousands of good citizens be "inspired" towards "this level of hate and intolerance" by Jerry Falwell? Perhaps a demonic entity inspired this one sicko. No?
You're making quite a fool out of yourself here, aren't you, Rahvin?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 196 of 224 (402061)
05-23-2007 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by berberry
05-23-2007 11:14 PM


Re: the funeral and republican politics
berberry writes:
I was heartened to hear that none of the presidential candidates attended Falwell's funeral.
Folks like most on this thread around the country have been very effectively badmouthing and verbally trashing a good man to the extent that it would be political suicide for any of them to attend; simple as that.
Eat your heart out. Jesus who was treated much worse by the clamoring hoards of false accusers sit's on the right hand of God almighty as we speak. If the Bible is as true as all the fulfilled prophecies show it to be, my bet is that Falwell likely fairs better in God's judment day than all of you, his accusers.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 202 of 224 (402347)
05-25-2007 10:35 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by Rahvin
05-23-2007 11:53 PM


Re: Rahvin's Uncredible Exaggeration
Rahvin writes:
Nice strawman. I didn;t say Christianity. I said radically fundamentalist Christianity. Much like ALL Muslims are not out to blow us up, neither are all Christians nutbars. But radical fundamentalist Christianity is prone to violence, just like radically fundamentalist Islam.
Radically fundamentalist Christianity is the hatemongering stuff that caused all of the Christian atrocities of the past. Radically fundamentalist Christianity is what drives all of the BAD part of Christianity today. This is entirely different from the normal Christians who don't think homosexuality brings natural disasters. Exactly like radical fundamentalist Muslims like to blow up infidels, and normal Muslims tend to value life much like normal Christians. The fact that it appears that there are far more radical fundamentalist Muslims than radical fundamentalist Christians is irrelevant and a red herring.
And demonic entities, Buz? And you call ME a fool?
The problem is that you alleged that Falwell inspired the miniscule element of radical violent Christian nutcases which I showed not to be the case. I showed that 99.9% of who this man inspired were not violent nutcases but good non-violent citizens. On the otherhand, Islam inspires thousands to radical violence.
The bottom line is that the Biblical fundamentalist principles which Falwell inspired are good non-violent principles whereas the principles which Mohammed's Islamic fundamentalism inspired violence as established by the thousands of these fundamentalists bent on violence.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 203 of 224 (402351)
05-25-2007 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by macaroniandcheese
05-23-2007 11:57 PM


Re: the funeral and republican politics
Falwell simply preached the Biblical pronouncements that God's judgement comes upon nations which thumb their nose at him and poo poo his principles and commandments. That's not him personally wishing for the death of the 9/11ers et al. It's cause and effect on nations who defy God's role as supreme being to be respected and obeyed.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 213 of 224 (402434)
05-26-2007 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by Taz
05-26-2007 2:39 PM


TD writes:
Ok, I think Falwell was an evil man for condeming people who had never done a thing to him or his family. He's left us a legacy of evil that will take us generations to get rid of.
He advocated most of the principles that most if not all of the founders and the majority of Americans believed and practiced the first two centuries of our history which were Biblical principles.
You appear to be implying that the founders and majority of Americans in the history of our nation were evil. Further you are implying that these principles are what you and coming generations must work to get rid of.
Likely the secularist dictator murderers who ruled the the Communist block nations via rod of iron violence and who last century outlawed the Bible and murdered a hundred million of their own citizens would agree with you that the Biblical principles Falwell advocated should be gotten rid of.
Btw, slavery is a practice that, until Americans outlawed it nearly a century and a half ago, has been a practice to some degree, common to most cultures of mankind ever since the recording of history began.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 215 of 224 (402623)
05-29-2007 12:18 AM
Reply to: Message 214 by Taz
05-26-2007 6:31 PM


Agree to Disagree
Fair enough, Taz. Take care.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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