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Author Topic:   A Question of the Heart
Dr Adequate
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Message 11 of 36 (402673)
05-29-2007 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faithful Servant
05-28-2007 9:34 PM


Our minds have a capacity for understanding that is far and away leagues above and beyond any other so-called "species" that, comparing us to animals begins to sound preposterous.
Well ... with the single exception of grammatical speech, there are only quantitative differnces between what we can do and what chimps can do. But it is true that we have far and away the most intelligence, just as the elephant has the biggest nose.
By the way, what do you mean by so-called "species". Don't you think species exist? Why the "so-called" and the scare quotes?
And no one can explain it. For all of science's "physical" evidence, they can say absolutely nothing of the one thing that makes us who we are...
Sir, you exaggerate. Scientists can tell us lots of interesting things about the relation of the brain to its functions. There are doubtless things they can't tell us, but this is no reason to suppose that what is unexplained is supernatural. About two thousand five hundred years ago, Hippocrates wrote: "Men think epilepsy divine, merely because they do not understand it. But if they called everything divine which they do not understand, there would be no end of divine things."
Today, we have a rather better understanding of epilepsy and of what is going on in the brain during an epileptic fit.
... because it has no "physical" properties to speak of.
"A blow to the head will confuse a man's thinking, a blow to the foot has no such effect, this cannot be the result of an immaterial soul." - Hereclitus.
But, there was one who lived, who laid out exactly what this "unseen property" of humanity was, how it came about, and what happens to it in the end. His name was Jesus Christ. His revelation about this aspect of humanity was so great that, no one has been able to touch it since.
Actually, I can think of lots of interesting facts about psychology which can't be found in the gospels.
As for saying exactly what this "unseen property" is ... no, not really. In fact, I can see nothing in the Bible which explicitly tells me whether my mind is immaterial or whether it is in fact instantiated in the physical structure and activity of my brain. The idea that I possess an immaterial soul seems to be a later philosophical concept not actually attested in Scripture.
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This looks like an interesting topic. Welcome to the forums!
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Dr Adequate
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Message 24 of 36 (402789)
05-29-2007 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Faithful Servant
05-29-2007 10:07 PM


Since we are getting deep into this here, I wanna pose a question to all those who want to debate what I'm saying here. What does science have to say about the law of cause and effect?
That there's no such thing.
You won't find a "law of cause and effect" in any science textbook.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 33 of 36 (402896)
05-30-2007 4:07 PM


No Brainer
Here's an interesting fact.
The word "brain" doesn't appear once in the Bible.
Not once.
The Bible invariably describes people as thinking with their hearts.
Anyone up for a quick round of "teach both theories"?

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