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Taz
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Message 5 of 107 (403672)
06-04-2007 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by WS-JW
06-04-2007 4:28 PM


Are you going to participate in the other thread about food you started or are you just throwing things out there hoping to create controversy?


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Taz
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Message 20 of 107 (403758)
06-05-2007 12:13 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by WS-JW
06-04-2007 10:52 PM


WS-JW writes:
people who learn this evolution fairy tale in school hanve to unlearn it when they come to do quantum theory.
Just so you know, some of us have the education and experience background to adequately call ourselves physicists. Making vague claims slightly hinting you know something about it isn't going to fool anyone.
But to be fair, perhaps you'd like to tell us why quantum mechanics would contradict the theory of biological evolution?


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Taz
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Message 92 of 107 (407938)
06-29-2007 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Chiroptera
06-29-2007 11:09 AM


Re: Off-topic reply.
Chiroptera writes:
a religious conversion almost always occurs first, and then the creationism follows.
Not meaning to undermine your authority, Mister Bat, but the opposite could be said about evolution.
Many people, including myself, abandoned religion first before seeing through the bullshit of creationism.

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Taz
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Message 93 of 107 (407940)
06-29-2007 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by whaler777
06-29-2007 10:39 AM


whaler777 writes:
I apoligize for the response i made earlier. I was a little harsh and mainly it was due to reading most of these threads about people being closed mind thinking. By that i mean i saw most people defend evolution(evilution) with a death wish but refuse to look at other theories with same intensity(creation theory for example)and was wondering why would you?.
I don't want get too deep into this. I have 3 questions for you.
Are you prepared to stop using anti-biotics? Are you prepared to never take another innoculation? Can you name even one scientifically valid and medically helpful thing that spawned directly from creationism?
There is a better chance in a tornado for 747 to be created from an airplane wrecking yard than for any of these theories to exist. But anyways your wright i'm probably in the wrong area for this discussion. Sorry.
In college, I majored in Physics and Math. And for a time, I was a TA for college math students. Therefore, I am more than willing to see your probability calculations.
Are you honestly looking to impress anyone here? There are research scientists, professors, as well as professionals working in the fields we are talking about. Are you trying to tell us that we are all dumbasses?

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Taz
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Message 98 of 107 (407963)
06-29-2007 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Chiroptera
06-29-2007 11:28 AM


Re: Off-topic reply.
Chiroptera writes:
I'm saying that I'm aware of very few people who rejected evolution and accepted creationism based on an examination of the facts.
First of all, I said I saw through the bullshit of creationism. The only way for many people to abandon creationism is to stop seeing that god has a hand in everything, and this is very close to abandoning god outright. Just about everytime I hear people talk about how after examining the evidence and seeing how all the evidence contradict creationism directly, they all had crises of faith. Some became atheists and some became theistic evolutionists.
The point is it's nearly impossible for one to be able to critically understand the evidence for evolution (aka the real world) while still having the mindset that the world is a magical place with every phenomenon having "goddunit" as the explanation.
Just look at noah's ark for example. It's rediculous to think that there was a world wide flood and that somehow noah's family was able to build an boat big enough for 2 of every animal on earth and feed all those animal for a year. And yet, there are good and intelligent people who believe this story wholeheartedly.
So, I would disagree with you that the lack of understanding or knowledge of the evidence is the reason why a person rejects evolution. It's more than that. It's the so-called "god-sight" that has been ingrained in them since childhood.

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He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

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Taz
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Message 99 of 107 (407965)
06-29-2007 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Chiroptera
06-29-2007 12:36 PM


Re: Off-topic reply.
Chiroptera writes:
This is what made it very hard for me to become an atheist (moving off the topic of evolution for a post).
Out of curiosity, what finally made you abandon your faith?
The few people I know that were once true fundamentalist evangelicals who are now atheists have gone through the same thing I did, that it was a crisis of conscience that made us into atheists rather than the so-called overwhelming evidence. I'm just wondering how it was in your case.

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