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Author Topic:   Why It Is Right To Do Good To Others
skepticfaith
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From: NY, USA
Joined: 08-29-2006


Message 45 of 304 (404385)
06-08-2007 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Stile
06-08-2007 2:43 PM


Re: The tricky parts are... tricky
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That's my point. That this thinking is incorrect. Morality isn't decided upon by society or individuals. No one, individuals or society, gets to decide that stealing or leaving trash in the woods are morally neutral, good, or bad. It's bad. It's wrong. It's damaging the wood. That's it. No discussion. You can say you don't care, or didn't understand, or whatever. It's still morally wrong.
I found this to be a seriously offensive statement (well withing my moral outset)..
Morality IS decided by society and/or individuals. It is society (or certain segments of it ) that determime that leaving trash is BAD. The fact is it IS NOT MORALLY WRONG TO ME or to many others. You have no right to try to impose your beliefs on me.
The reason we have wars is because of DIFFERENCES in morality. Side A thinks that on issue A they are on the side of good, side B thinks they are opposite.
It is because of the lack of objective thinking that ALL modern wars have been fought. The victor then paints the losing side as being morally wrong and yippee we had a just war! Nonsense.
An alien from another planet would not give a hoot about our morality -they will not see good or evil in our civilization - all they will see is wars fought over power, and issues that people argue over.
Laws are imposed by people and it is a sad fact that certain people would like to impose laws to oppress people when laws should really be structured to make society run efficiently.
Even though I am not a Christian by faith, I think the greatest moral statement that should be considered reasonable by most was made by Jesus:
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Everything else is just bickering over issues that people generally disagree on.

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skepticfaith
Member (Idle past 5749 days)
Posts: 71
From: NY, USA
Joined: 08-29-2006


Message 48 of 304 (404400)
06-08-2007 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Stile
06-08-2007 3:52 PM


Re: The disagreement
Lets just say our foundations of morality differ . I definitely do not agree with the inner-feelings of the being acted upon theory. I do believe being good is more about caring about those in your immediate vicinity than 'caring' about some starving people miles away in a distant land. I do not believe that anything to do conserving or 'saving' the enviornment can be good.Maybe it is beneficial to the human race as a whole (that is maybe too) but no way the environmental activists are 'good' people because they 'care'.
We as a species have this concept of good perhaps as a result of evolution or our Creator.
I am not God so I don't know if my concept of good is any better than yours. I don't understand your resistance to the do unto others principle. It doesn't refer to sexual perversions or apply to those who are mentally ill. I mean would you actually like to be raped? S&M is consensual activity too -- rape isn't.
Another thing - I actually want to increase my inner feelings - I prefer to be happy so I don't buy your theory.
But I will not go to war with you over this though ..)

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