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Buzsaw
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Message 16 of 303 (404450)
06-08-2007 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Minnemooseus
06-08-2007 9:30 PM


Re: Dinosaurs and People etc.
Moose writes:
But some pretty absurd stuff is also going to show up. You think that a scene showing dinosaurs and humans living together is going to get attention? I think it will, and the most prominent evidence of said having happened may well be The Flintstones and BC cartoons.
It will eventually be established that dinosaurs and humans did exist at the same period. Likely what we have already is more authentic than secularists want to admit. Erosion over the millenia would tend to enlarge the impressions of the exposed fossils.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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DrJones*
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Message 17 of 303 (404455)
06-08-2007 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
06-08-2007 9:42 PM


Re: Dinosaurs and People etc.
Likely what we have already is more authentic than secularists want to admit
And what is your background in geology/anthropology/palaeontology? Other than your mythology of choice what reason do you have to state this?

Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

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Nighttrain
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Message 18 of 303 (404459)
06-08-2007 10:19 PM


Stumble
Not picking on Yank raw material, because I`m sure you could make a similar video in any nation if selective, but here`s a sample of the fodder that creo museums might use.
Interviewer: Name a country starting with 'U'
Interviewee: ????
http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=3xdgkays4k

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molbiogirl
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Message 19 of 303 (404469)
06-08-2007 11:33 PM
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06-08-2007 9:42 PM


Likely what we have already is more authentic than secularists want to admit
Is there something in particular that you have in mind?

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simple 
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Message 20 of 303 (404472)
06-09-2007 12:03 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Vacate
06-08-2007 4:05 AM


Re: How noodly be thy appendage?
quote:
Do you also consider a museum that promotes the Flying Spagetti Monster also a "great thing" and "long overdue"?
Why would I think something that does not exist is great?
quote:
Interesting that you would promote the museum on the grounds of a need for faith and not on the grounds that you feel a problem in science. If you have no problem with science, would it not be better to supply faith in some other method? Perhaps church or a theology class would be a better method of providing faith.
I don't feel that science really comes into the picture all that much. After all, how much science is in the pre big bang stories?
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It would not suprise me at all. I find it sad that instead of progress things seem to be slipping backwards in the progress of science. With fights in court and the building of such museums I would not be suprised if my great grandchildren believe the Earth to be flat and illness is caused by evil spirits.
Illness can be caused by evil spirits. But the earth being flat, I think is something not even the ancients really believed.

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simple 
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Message 21 of 303 (404477)
06-09-2007 12:06 AM
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06-08-2007 4:13 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
quote:
It appears that by 'faith' you mean lies.
You have an opinion. Good for you.

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DrJones*
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Message 22 of 303 (404478)
06-09-2007 12:09 AM
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06-09-2007 12:03 AM


Re: How noodly be thy appendage?
Why would I think something that does not exist is great?
I dunno, you seem to think the fairy tale promoted by this "museum" is great, what's wrong with telling the FSM's side of the story?
After all, how much science is in the pre big bang stories?
More than none, which is what you'll find in this "museum"
Illness can be caused by evil spirits.
Right and there's a old white guy in the sky watching our every move too.

Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

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jar
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Message 23 of 303 (404482)
06-09-2007 12:10 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by simple
06-09-2007 12:06 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
You have an opinion. Good for you.
The fact that Biblical Creationism is a lie and fraud is not a matter of opinion but of fact. It is supported only by the Christian Cult of Ignorance and as long as Christians are willing to remain ignorant and willing to fork over money to the leaders of the Cult of Ignorance, it will thrive.
Biblical Creationism is not just bad science, it is worse theology.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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simple 
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Message 24 of 303 (404488)
06-09-2007 12:38 AM
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06-08-2007 4:48 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
What, exactly is Creationist "science"??

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simple 
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Message 25 of 303 (404489)
06-09-2007 12:43 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by anglagard
06-08-2007 5:01 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
quote:
Welcome to EvC Keys!
Thank you.
quote:
I was curious if you have fully considered the repercussions of such museums. I believe much more of this type of false witness would serve to humiliate, degrade, and ultimately marginalize Christianity in any nation as it is against both the religion as understood by the vast majority of theologians that have actually taken the time to study the Bible and of course the science that provides for economic prosperity and the common defense.
Without God, there can be no defense, to start with. Many countries found that out through history. As for science, most of the creation debate is before our science is known to apply. So, why not let the creation of the bible be taught, even with imperfect science, rather than shunned, with imperfect science!? After all, the creation museum does better reflect the majority opinion in the US.
As for degrading, and humiliating, nothing is more so than the philosphy and world view that claims man is just an animal.
Edited by keys, : No reason given.

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simple 
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Message 26 of 303 (404493)
06-09-2007 12:48 AM
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06-08-2007 6:30 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
That depends if Hinduism was the predominant faith.Would that not matter to you?

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DrJones*
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Message 27 of 303 (404497)
06-09-2007 12:50 AM
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06-09-2007 12:43 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
Without God, there can be no defense
Which god? Allah? Vishnu? Odin the Allfather?
So, why not let the creation of the bible be taught, even with imperfect science, rather than shunned, with imperfect science!?
Because it's a religion? Why teach religion in a science class? And while we're teaching the lies ofchristiantiy do you also want to set aside time for the Turth of Odin?
After all, the creation museum does better reflect the majority opinion in the US.
Well the majority is often wrong. It was once the majority opinion in the US that blacks weren't people.
As for degrading, and humiliating, nothing is more so than the philosphy and world view that claims man is just an animal
As opposed to the worldview that we're the playthings/slaves of a power mad diety?

Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
*not an actual doctor

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simple 
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Message 28 of 303 (404498)
06-09-2007 12:51 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by jar
06-09-2007 12:10 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
quote:
The fact that Biblical Creationism is a lie and fraud is not a matter of opinion but of fact. It is supported only by the Christian Cult of Ignorance and as long as Christians are willing to remain ignorant and willing to fork over money to the leaders of the Cult of Ignorance, it will thrive.
I see. So you are not unbiased. Interesting. OK. I would ask you what faith you are from, then, since you had something to say about my faith. Two can play at that game. I do hope you will be honest. If you claim no faith, the faith of your fathers will do. -If not, perhaps you can find some other thread where you randomly insult. This should be fun.
Edited by keys, : No reason given.

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jar
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Message 29 of 303 (404502)
06-09-2007 12:57 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by simple
06-09-2007 12:51 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
I would ask you what faith you are from, then, since you had something to say about my faith.
I am a Christian which is why I can speak about the Christian Cult of Ignorance.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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simple 
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Message 30 of 303 (404506)
06-09-2007 12:59 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by riVeRraT
06-08-2007 7:03 AM


Re: How Sweet it is!
quote:
Puerto Rico has had one for many years already.
Fantastic, glad to hear that.
quote:
IT is not a good thing if it is based on lies.
Neither would the standard stories about things that can't be proved, about the beginnings of things, if they were lies.
quote:
Children deserve truth.
If God is real, then they need to base their faith on truth, not lies, otherwise they will lose their faith when the obvious truth becomes apparent to them.
That, you may feel a need to worry about, but, if one is standing on the rock, that would be impossible, because the truth is the truth is the truth. It already would be apparent to them.

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