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crashfrog
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Message 8 of 55 (398731)
05-02-2007 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by New Cat's Eye
05-02-2007 11:37 AM


Re: Oops
If someone had faith in two mutually exclusive things, they could use reasoning to realize that they must be mistaken somewhere.
Who says you can't have faith in two mutually exclusive things? If, using faith, you can arrive at conclusions that aren't supportable by evidence, who says you can't use faith to arrive at conclusions that aren't supportable by logic, either?

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crashfrog
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Message 25 of 55 (404888)
06-10-2007 11:40 AM
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06-10-2007 10:37 AM


Why should it be assumed that that there is no reality that goes beyond our direct experience, one that simply cannot be sensed and observed?
It doesn't, but neither does it follow that just because there may be aspects of reality that can never be observed by our senses, there are such aspects; and neither does it follow that just because there may be such aspects we can just make up what those aspects are and call them "God" or "the supernatural" or what-have-you.
Kantian doubt really offers nothing for the believer to stand on. The Kantian undetectables, by definition, cannot ever affect us (or else our senses could detect them) therefore they're non-existent for all practical purpose. Certainly for all reasonable purposes.

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crashfrog
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Message 27 of 55 (404892)
06-10-2007 12:10 PM
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06-10-2007 11:57 AM


However, Is it possible using reason alone to deduce phenomenon that are beyond our ability to emperically detect?
Anything at all can be made-up. That's the power of human imagination.

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