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06-07-2007 9:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 3 by Zhimbo
06-07-2007 9:27 PM

Re: Wrong title?
1) the reliability of clinical diagnoses,...
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Recently the tools of genetics and CTscans have been added to the diagnostic kit. This allows researchers to see if there is something common between people with certain diseases determined by classical diagnosis.
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This is fairly new but is showing some results. It is probably most hindered by having to use classical diagnosis for data organization when that is the least reliable of the techniques.
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I expect psychology to grow up soon. Especially for things like battle fatigue (where we now have a large source of people to study).
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06-10-2007 1:43 PM 		Reply to: Message 7 by JustinC
06-08-2007 2:44 PM

Re: Wrong title?
But what I have a problem with is the plethora of mental illnesses now being "diagnosed."
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But there are valid issues about 1) the reliability of clinical diagnoses, and 2) whether there is a sound theoretical basis for diagnosed syndromes.
(1) is inexextricably linked to two. The reason there is no reliability in clinical diagnosis is because there is no one really knows what a mental disorder is. They just seem to be classifying some personality characteristics as a disorder with really no justification.
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As long as they can do double blind studies and show positive results they can move forward on making such diagnosis. In populations where the sample size is small this may be difficult, but where we have a large sample (say for battle fatigue?) they should be able to manage it.
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06-10-2007 5:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 13 by JustinC
06-10-2007 3:27 PM

double blind bind
A double blind study with regard to what exactly? The effectiveness of treatment?
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Certainly for treatment (same as any other medical procedure)
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Could be anything. It could be on diagnosis, with patients and volunteers filling out questionnaires and psychologists and lay people making diagnosis from the answers. If you had a strong correlation between patients and psychologist diagnosis would that not speak to the validity of the diagnosis?
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06-13-2007 10:23 AM 		Reply to: Message 16 by JustinC
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Re: double blind bind
Patients fill out questionnaires about their behavior and thoughts. Layman and psychologists ask patient about their behaviors and thoughts and presumably get honest answers.
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You would have questionnaires that volunteers and patients would fill out, it would list a lot of general questions, yet buried in them would be ones keyed to making diagnosis of various conditions (say OCD behavior). They would not know that it was about disease diagnosis (it could be run as a study on precognition or esp for instance). The questionnaires would then be evaluated by lay people and psychologists, with the lay people given criteria to look for in answers to certain questions, and the psychologists to make diagnosis on those questions (they'd probably guess if just given the criteria).
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Compare the results.
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06-13-2007 10:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 32 by Larni
06-13-2007 7:26 AM

Psychiatrist are medically trained and have a grounding in the medical model.
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And can write prescriptions for drugs, psychologists can't.
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My mother was a child psychologist and did some studies on learning in autistic children before retirement.
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