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molbiogirl
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Message 214 of 303 (405264)
06-12-2007 1:37 AM
Reply to: Message 210 by simple
06-12-2007 1:10 AM


This is priceless.
That is how we know. And all these things we know, unbelievers cannot know, unless they become believers. Otherwise how could you know
We know because we know and you don't know because you don't know!
Well.
keys.
You done gone an did it.
You done whupped me.
You done took me out t th woodshed.
keys: "God exists!"
molbiogirl: "Show me."
keys: "Because I said so!"
keys: "Jesus rose from the dead!"
molbiogirl: "Show me."
keys: "Because I said so!"
keys: "The flood happened!"
molbiogirl: "Show me."
keys: "Because I said so!"
Evidence, keys!
Still waiting on that evidence!

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molbiogirl
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Message 216 of 303 (405267)
06-12-2007 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 213 by Rahvin
06-12-2007 1:35 AM


My stars!
Number 8!
Ladies and gentleman!
We have number 8!
We do not like being called animals, and having you claim that we started off as a singularity. We do not like you pretending there are no angels, and God, and supernatural, when you speak from only ignorance. You can't know that, and should have the decency to admit it!
So...your entire argument is based on the idea that it's highly unpleasant to consider the fact that you are the descendent of primitive apes? Seriously, keys, that's just ridiculous. That's an Appeal to Emotion fallacy.
C'mon keys!
I know you can do it!
Just 26 more to go!
Ev-i-dence!
Ev-i-dence!

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molbiogirl
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Posts: 1909
From: MO
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Message 219 of 303 (405270)
06-12-2007 1:55 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by simple
06-12-2007 1:38 AM


Re: Oh for the love of his noodley appendage!
I never said there was evidence for you.
Au contraire, mon frere!
To wit:
On the other hand, the earth abounds with evidence for a God
Let's review that quote again, shall we?
On the other hand, the earth abounds with evidence for a God
I'm from Missouri.
Show me.

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molbiogirl
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Message 220 of 303 (405271)
06-12-2007 2:03 AM
Reply to: Message 218 by Rahvin
06-12-2007 1:55 AM


Re: My stars!
Pssst! I don't think our friend keys understands what a logical fallacy is, or why it's bad to be making them!
[whispers] I know! But when it suits his fancy ...
Or are you just engaging in a little Argumentum ad ignorantiam?
... he tries to play too! Isn't that just adorable? [/whispers]
[whispers] But, you see, what he doesn't realize is ...
On the list of your 'imaginary crimes list'.
... it's an imaginary crime! [/whispers]
Edited by molbiogirl, : No reason given.

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molbiogirl
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Posts: 1909
From: MO
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Message 229 of 303 (405280)
06-12-2007 3:12 AM
Reply to: Message 224 by simple
06-12-2007 2:23 AM


Re: My stars!
[sigh] How soon they forget.
This evidence.
I never said there was evidence for you.
Au contraire, mon frere!
To wit:
On the other hand, the earth abounds with evidence for a God
Let's review that quote again, shall we?
On the other hand, the earth abounds with evidence for a God
I'm from Missouri.
Show me.

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molbiogirl
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From: MO
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Message 231 of 303 (405282)
06-12-2007 3:23 AM
Reply to: Message 230 by simple
06-12-2007 3:19 AM


Re: My stars!
You said you had evidence god exists.
I am asking to see it.
You said you had evidence jebus rose from the dead.
I am asking to see it.

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molbiogirl
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Posts: 1909
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Message 235 of 303 (405286)
06-12-2007 4:10 AM
Reply to: Message 230 by simple
06-12-2007 3:19 AM


Re: My stars!
As Nosy said:
You seem to want to avoid discussing actual facts. If that is true then say so and don't waste peoples time
And as our admin director said:
The goal of EvC Forum is to host discussions that actually make progress, and those who consistently make this goal difficult to achieve quickly gain the notice of moderators.
This conversation isn't making progress.
To make things easier for you, I offer you a list of "evidences" you have yet to provide:
Jesus rose from the dead, that is evidence
Another example might be that many have seen ghosts and angels.
I have evidence in my life
I do use the bible for some things, yes ... That is evidence.
Millions of people have had miracles
The flood itself I believe, and millions of other as well, really happened.
Now, may I remind you, on more than one occasion you have [willfully?] chosen to contradict yourself:
Example #1
I don't recall someone asking me to prove the flood here
List 2 known lies in the museum, so we can see what you mean.
(2) The world wide flood occurred within that time or any close approximation
Example #2
I never said there was evidence for you.
On the other hand, the earth abounds with evidence for a God
So. As you compose your answer, consider this:
You have offered nothing beyond the 6 bare assertions listed above. You are blocking the progress of this discussion. In order to move forward, I suggest you pick one or two of the "evidences" from that list and elaborate.
Over the past couple of days, several people have pointed this out to you, but I think it bears repeating: Just because I said so is NOT evidence.
To use Rahvin's analogy, just because I say there's a pink unicorn on my shoulder doesn't make it so.
Just because someone says they saw a ghost doesn't make it so.
Just because someone says they saw an angel doesn't make it so.
Just because someone says the flood occurred doesn't make it so.
Just because someone says jebus rose from the dead doesn't make it so.
Just because someone says there are miracles doesn't make it so.
Just because someone says the bible is literally true doesn't make it so.

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molbiogirl
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From: MO
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Message 238 of 303 (405291)
06-12-2007 5:04 AM
Reply to: Message 236 by simple
06-12-2007 4:29 AM


Re: My stars!
OK, I pick Jesus rising. We saw it. We believe it. We documented it.
OK. Good. A place to start.
Repeating your bare assertion, as you just did, as you have done too many times to count, is NOT evidence.
"We saw it."
Prove it.
"We documented it."
Prove it.
Provide something, anything, as evidence to back up this "because I said so" claim.
Use the museum. Use the bible. Use other historical references. Use something other than "because I said so".
And don't say "Nuh-uh. You disprove it."
YOU made the assertion. YOU are obligated to back it up.

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molbiogirl
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Posts: 1909
From: MO
Joined: 06-06-2007


Message 241 of 303 (405294)
06-12-2007 5:27 AM
Reply to: Message 240 by Adminnemooseus
06-12-2007 5:17 AM


Re: Jesus' resurection has nothing to do with creationism museums!!!
Sorry!
I might have misunderstood the admin director's suggestion:
The topic is creationism museums and what is appropriate in them, and closely related topics are probably fine, too.
Perhaps defining "closely related topics" would be helpful.
Or perhaps, as you say, we should refrain until keys comes up with some real substance.

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molbiogirl
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Message 249 of 303 (405309)
06-12-2007 7:36 AM
Reply to: Message 247 by Jaderis
06-12-2007 7:18 AM


Re: BeingChristian does not mean you must remain ignorant.
Good luck, RAZD, Jaderis.
I will eat my hat if keys answers your question, RAZD.
In all seriousness.
I will eat my hat.

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molbiogirl
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Message 253 of 303 (405336)
06-12-2007 10:28 AM


Big Valley Creation Science Museum
bvcsm – My WordPress Blog
I assert the following: The "evidence" offered in the 5 exhibits listed below is flawed and/or fictitious.
1. In this display we deal with the geological column, the fossil sequence and profound evidence for a past, global flood such as the Quartzite boulders of the Cypress Hills in Alberta and Saskatchewan.
2. The fantastic "Fossils and the Flood" display contains only genuine, museum quality fossils and a giant model of Noah's ark. Come find out why these fossils present profound evidence for the flood of Noah.
3. The "Dinosaurs and Humans" display shows considerable evidence that not only did dinosaurs exist recently, but that humans existed with them.
4. The interactive bacterial flagellum and DNA displays both provide compelling evidence for creation and refute any unguided, 'natural' processes such as evolution.
5. The "Evidence From Geneaology" display, donated by Edgar Nurnberg, is one of the more favourite displays of our visitors. These scrolls from the Lambeth Palace in England trace the geneaology of King Henry the 6th back to Adam and Eve.
Furthermore, I assert the following: The "evidence" offered in the 2 videos listed below is flawed and/or fictitious.
Click here (Page not found – bvcsm) to view the multimedia video on the flagellum or click here (Page not found – bvcsm) to view the multimedia video on DNA and information.
As with RAZD and the flood (Message 244), I too will take it in easy steps ... with breaks for you to reply and rebut any of the evidence.
Let's start with Item #1. The geologic column.
The YEC POV
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"The geologic column is an idea, not an actual series of rock layers. Nowhere do we find the complete sequence."
Wrong.
The entire geologic column is found in 25 basins around the world, piled up in proper order. These basins are:
* The Ghadames Basin in Libya
* The Beni Mellal Basin in Morrocco
* The Tunisian Basin in Tunisia
* The Oman Interior Basin in Oman
* The Western Desert Basin in Egypt
* The Adana Basin in Turkey
* The Iskenderun Basin in Turkey
* The Moesian Platform in Bulgaria
* The Carpathian Basin in Poland
* The Baltic Basin in the USSR
* The Yeniseiy-Khatanga Basin in the USSR
* The Farah Basin in Afghanistan
* The Helmand Basin in Afghanistan
* The Yazd-Kerman-Tabas Basin in Iran
* The Manhai-Subei Basin in China
* The Jiuxi Basin China
* The Tung t'in - Yuan Shui Basin China
* The Tarim Basin China
* The Szechwan Basin China
* The Yukon-Porcupine Province Alaska
* The Williston Basin in North Dakota
* The Tampico Embayment Mexico
* The Bogata Basin Colombia
* The Bonaparte Basin, Australia
* The Beaufort Sea Basin/McKenzie River Delta
From http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/geocolumn
Care to comment, keys?

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molbiogirl
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From: MO
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Message 273 of 303 (405407)
06-12-2007 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Modulous
06-12-2007 3:24 PM


Re: Why we shouldn't celebrate
Wow, Mod. Great job!
You know, I've been reading all the really long threads on EvC over the past few weeks and I've gotta say ... I've never seen this approach before.
Excellent!

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molbiogirl
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Message 282 of 303 (405458)
06-13-2007 12:43 AM
Reply to: Message 278 by simple
06-12-2007 11:21 PM


Re: A late focusing attempt
We observed Jesus getting up from the dead.
We? Surely you weren't there.
OK, so you admit your ability to give facts is limited. I agree.
You missed the point. You can't offer evidence of an alien abduction. Nor can you offer evidence (or are unwilling to offer evidence) of god.
One really can't tell, can one, about things of the spirit, if one is dead to the spiritual? Being born again of the spirit allows us, I believe, to begin to tell. Until then, one might be limited to science, and such.
You didn't answer the question.
How do YOU tell the difference between that which is well founded and that which is not?
Why dispute it? I might simply attribute it to spirits that may not be all that good in my books.
Do you? And witches too (per your holy book)?
Why would I care what people believe, or dispute the spiritual happening they think they encounter??
You didn't answer the question.
Do you believe that LDS and Voudou are legitimate? That is to say, just as legit as xianity.
How would I know. If I judged that, I would speak, as you do, from ignorance. Why would I do that? I prefer to know what I am talking about.
So, am I to understand you have no opinion on the spiritual beliefs of 67% of humanity? You do not think that jebus is the one and only true way?
Restoring a limb is nothing? Hmmmm. So while your God goes around answering Christian prayers for all sorts he just never got around to restoring a limb yet because he has not specialized in that.
The evangelicals, Jeff Jansen and Patricia King of Global Fire ministries who promote the Gemstone miracles, also claim people being healed with new set of lungs and eyes and gold crowned teeth - but sadly for the amputees, no new limbs.
You choice of words such as "Specialized" is odd. The creator of the universe needs to "specialize" in this sort of thing? Wow your vision of god is smaller than I thought.
I gotta go with Iceage on this one. Petty sort, that god of yours.

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molbiogirl
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Posts: 1909
From: MO
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Message 290 of 303 (405472)
06-13-2007 2:24 AM
Reply to: Message 286 by simple
06-13-2007 1:27 AM


Re: A late focusing attempt
Yup. I'm tired of you too.
Ciao bella.

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