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Author Topic:   Viral vaccines, ToE and predictability
RAZD
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Message 3 of 9 (405596)
06-13-2007 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Kramer
06-13-2007 8:18 PM


Welcome to the fray Kramer
The Theory of Evolution does not provide any information to scientists concerning what will or what won't mutate in a specific virus, gene, etc.
Of course not. Mutations are not predictable.
Does this mean that evolution is useless? Not at all. Does this mean that evolution is invalid? Not at all.
Beyond that, there is no utility to the theory when developing vaccines.
We do know that it will be substantially the same and that certain proteins will be similar. This is because evolution predicts that the new variety will be a daughter of the previous one. Thus you know where to start with making a vaccine for a new variety of a virus rather than starting from scratch.
Of course the alternative is ... what? Prayer? Based on scientific studies this is remarkably ineffective.
Alternatively the theory of woo predicts that you know of no way to prevent it as it is visited on you by the great woo himself and you need to make your prayers to the lesser gods ralph and earl at the porcelain altar.
Your point is?
Enjoy.
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RAZD
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Message 6 of 9 (405670)
06-14-2007 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Kramer
06-14-2007 8:31 AM


Being unable to make specific predictions does not invalidate the theory... It is a useless theory... that has essentially contributed virtually nothing to empirical science.
The theory does produce predictions. ONE of them is that the new virus will be closely related to the previous one. Another is that every virus will change over time to adapt to methods and medications and environmental changes.
If you think this is insufficient then feel free to use last years flu vaccine, as according to you it should be no worse than this years, being virtually identical based on such predictions.
In fact I would say you are HONOR bound to use last years vaccine seeing as you think this concept of change and adaptation is so useless.
We knew that 6000 years ago...
We've known it for much longer than that. If you care to discuss the age of the earth then please follow this link to Age Correlations and an Old Earth: Version 1 No 3 (formerly Part III) and see if you can do what no arrogant in ignorance creationist has been able to do: refute the FACTS that show the earth is old, very old.
Enjoy.

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