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Author Topic:   How does science disprove the Bible?
NosyNed
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Message 3 of 310 (406944)
06-23-2007 12:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dragoness
06-22-2007 11:20 PM


Let's ask Galileo
This is in response to this post and to your husband's views in the other thread (platypus one).
Galileo apparently said (quoting from Augustine):
quote:
"And in St. Augustine [in the seventh letter to Marcellinus] we read: 'If anyone shall set the authority of Holy Writ against clear and manifest reason, he who does this knows not what he has undertaken; for he opposes to the truth not the meaning of the Bible, which is beyond his comprehension, but rather his own interpretation; not what is in the Bible, but what he has found in himself and imagines to be there'"[12]

What science does do is disprove a particular interpretation of the bible. That of the young earthers for example and many others that are shown to be in conflict with fact.
If the creationist (in the popular use of the word) insist on trying to force religion into a science classroom by making up a thing called "creation science" or "Intelligent Design" then they are the ones setting the bible up for disproof not the scientists who simply want to learn.
And a bit of discussion on this from a Christian site:
http://home1.gte.net/deleyd/religion/galileo/

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NosyNed
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Message 8 of 310 (406952)
06-23-2007 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Dragoness
06-23-2007 1:43 AM


One of the results...
You'll notice from WS's reply that one of the results of these discussions (if the creo stays around to actually consider what is known) is the conclusion that we may actually observe all these strong clues about the time spans and the nature of life on earth BUT these are simply how God made it all appear (light in transit etc.)
This has the unfortunate theological consequence of making that particular God out to be a malicious liar. The Norse named that God Loki. It seems many so called Christians like WS above actually worship Loki but don't know it.
This is one of the few end points of any of these discussions.
Another is the "thousands and thousands of scientists are lying/incompetant.
These are the positions that these people are willing to offer as "reasonable". It is fun to watch and amusing to point them out to friends.

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