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Message 3 of 306 (407336)
06-25-2007 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Parasomnium
06-25-2007 5:51 PM


Just Be Cause
Some people just think that its illogical for intelligence to evolve from mere elements, as if there is no need for a-priori intelligence.
God as uncaused first cause makes more sense than 4 to 6 elements from the atomic table.

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Message 21 of 306 (407406)
06-26-2007 4:29 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Parasomnium
06-26-2007 3:40 AM


Re: The question stands
parasomnium writes:
To sum it up: to date I have not seen a satisfactory answer to my question. As it stands, I will regard the God story in the same way as I regard fairy stories: as fables for immature minds. Prove me wrong, anyone.
  • What constitutes a mature mind? Is it unfashionable to believe in anything outside of science? I can see your logic regarding this topic and it is quite sound. What I don't see is any proof that a mature mind allows no room for belief.
    Personally, fairies have never been real and personal to me. Even as a child, my imagination was never quite able to accept fairies, giants, magic lamps, and space aliens as anything plausible.
  • The concept of God, however, was culturally reinforced yet to be honest, I never saw any more likelihood that God existed than I did Aladdins Genie.
    As an adult, I had a religious epiphany and changed quite dramatically in one particular period of time. I suppose that I could step back and evaluate the experience skeptically and critically, but I would not be prone to attempt to disprove myself. A man who is so skeptical as to stand for nothing inevitably spends his entire life searching for something that was with him the whole time, IMHO.
    Its all about world views and comfort levels. I feel uncomfortable imagining a world with no Creator. The Creator is personal to me...I believe that He loves me,
    I believe that He has veto power over any calamity that I or any other human can get ourselves into, and it gives me a sense of security whereas believing that we humans are alone in a vast universe and are responsible for our future destiny
    is quite uncomfortable to contemplate. We ain't that good!
    Humanity needs God. We don't need religion, however. For anyone to say that they don't need God is to have an unrealistic view of collective purpose. After all, who would make a better leader?

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    Phat
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    Message 114 of 306 (407640)
    06-27-2007 12:36 PM
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    06-27-2007 12:27 PM


    Re: Intellectually immature: definition
    I can see how God is no more knowable in an observable sense than are fairies, goblins, and Tazmanian Devils!
    I will say, however, that is is not a ludicrous belief to assert that an uncaused first cause Creator makes more sense than eternally existing uncaused matter.
    Fairies never had a hand in creating the universe, although they are responsible for shiny quarters and fifty cent pieces under our pillows when we lose our baby teeth.

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