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Author Topic:   How does science disprove the Bible?
PaulK
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Message 251 of 310 (409483)
07-09-2007 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by kbertsche
07-09-2007 5:24 PM


Re: Genesis is a Myth
If a scientist was caught warping the data to fit theory he would be met with disapproval from his colleagues. It is quite telling that you think that such behaviour is the corrct thing to do.
The Bible does not claim to be inerrant. Nor does it claim to be the literal word of God. This is a "theory" that the "data" does not fully support. Yet you feel free to manipulate the "data" to fit that "theory". You want a comparison with science ? OK, you are engaging in obvious mispractice. That's your comparison on your terms - what you asked for. Are you going to behave in the way a scientst should and publicly retract your claims ?

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Message 270 of 310 (409534)
07-10-2007 2:30 AM
Reply to: Message 254 by kbertsche
07-09-2007 9:42 PM


Re: Genesis is a Myth
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You completely misread what I wrote! I violently agree with you that this is NOT the correct thing to do. If scientific data does not fit a scientific theory, the THEORY must be modified. If the biblical data does not support a biblical interpretation, the INTERPRETATION must be modified. In either case, the data must not be warped.
In that case you'e going to admit that the Bible has contradictions and therefore is not entirely reliable, are you ? And admit that the Book of Joshua does speak of the sun stopping in the sky ? Or is it the case that I read you correctly and that you really do want to warp the "data" to fit the "theory" proposed by theologians ?

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Message 295 of 310 (409637)
07-10-2007 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 294 by ICANT
07-10-2007 4:15 PM


Re: Genesis is a Myth
In case you've forgotten your huge gap between Genesis 4 and 5 is your invention. It isn't in the Bible at all.
The Earth is not likely to be billions of years older than current science says because that estimate was not based solely -or even largely - on the Earth's rocks. They're all younger. Metorites were more important and they should give the date that the solar system was forming. Likewise the Sun - which should be older than the Earth - is not especially old as stars go.

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Message 298 of 310 (409646)
07-10-2007 4:58 PM
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07-10-2007 4:47 PM


Re: Genesis is a Myth
You certainly did place a big gap between Genesis 4 and Genesis 5. YOu claimed that the people menbtioned at the start of Genesis 5 were completely different people form those at the end of Genesis 4, living millions of years later. Despite the fact that there is absolutely no reason to suppose that they aren't the same people.
You've got to put that gap - now billions of years - somewhere in the narrative or abandon your whole interpretation. So where do you put it now ? In Genesis 4 ? Between Genesis 3 and Genesis 4 ? In Genesis 3 ?

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PaulK
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Message 303 of 310 (409660)
07-10-2007 5:59 PM
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07-10-2007 5:10 PM


Re: Genesis is a Myth
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If you will read the message you are replying to you will see that I put those billions of years between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 4:26
I asked where it appeared in the narrative. That doesn't answer my question.
And in fact it appears that you don't have an answer. Because it isn't there. You made it up.

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Message 304 of 310 (409662)
07-10-2007 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by ICANT
07-10-2007 5:04 PM


Re: singular gobbledegook
Why do you provide four quotes when only one supports your claim ?

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