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AdminPD
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Message 211 of 361 (410089)
07-13-2007 7:11 AM


IamJoseph - 24 hour suspension
My admin actions carry a warning that any response to the admin post within the thread will receive a 24 hour timeout.

IamJoseph chose to respond with a useless post that gives me the impression he is testing that warning.

This suspension is the follow through.


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Message 212 of 361 (410096)
07-13-2007 8:05 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by AdminPD
07-13-2007 7:11 AM


Re: IamJoseph - 24 hour suspension
IamJoseph responded oppositionally to two prior moderator requests, so the behavior you observed is consistent with his past behavior.

IamJoseph, if you're reading this, all viewpoints and perspectives are welcome here, but we do have a set of Forum Guidelines that we enforce in order to make discussion enjoyable and rewarding for everyone. The first guideline asks that members follow moderator requests. We have both creationist and evolutionist moderators. Other guidelines ask that members stay on topic, address rebuttals, provide links as opposed to lengthy cut-n-pastes, provide attribution for excerpts, and treat other members respectfully.


--Percy
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Message 213 of 361 (410380)
07-14-2007 3:59 PM


Cold Foreign Object - 3 days
See Message 105

Normally the actual words used would get a pass. The tone is nasty.

In addition CFO manages to continue repeating things that he should have learned something about by now. This is a waste of the learning resources he has here.

He can think again. Or end up where he was before.


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Message 214 of 361 (410729)
07-17-2007 12:28 AM


IamJoseph a day to rest
see: Message 12 for an explanation.
Adminnemooseus
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Message 215 of 361 (410874)
07-17-2007 3:28 PM


Dan Carroll - 3 day suspension / Berberry - 1 week suspension
Dan by AdminModulous. See here and upthread.

Berberry by Admin. See here and upthread.

Both of these are because of things in the "General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 11.0" topic, and probably also in the preceding "General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 10.0" topic.

Adminnemooseus

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Added Berberry suspension info.


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Admin writes:

It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon.

There used to be a comedian who presented his ideas for a better world, and one of them was to arm everyone on the highway with little rubber dart guns. Every time you see a driver doing something stupid, you fire a little dart at his car. When a state trooper sees someone driving down the highway with a bunch of darts all over his car he pulls him over for being an idiot.

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Message 216 of 361 (411523)
07-21-2007 6:06 AM


Rrhain - 24 hour suspension
For this message

To quote my hovertext suspension message:

See here
24 hour suspension. He fucking just fucking won't fucking let the fucking matter fucking drop. - Adminnemooseus

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Admin writes:

It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon.

There used to be a comedian who presented his ideas for a better world, and one of them was to arm everyone on the highway with little rubber dart guns. Every time you see a driver doing something stupid, you fire a little dart at his car. When a state trooper sees someone driving down the highway with a bunch of darts all over his car he pulls him over for being an idiot.

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Message 217 of 361 (411585)
07-21-2007 1:13 PM


Suspended?
Someone want to tell me why Nemesis_Juggernaut was suspended?
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Message 218 of 361 (411612)
07-21-2007 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by AdminNem
07-21-2007 1:13 PM


Re: Suspended?
AdminNem writes:

Someone want to tell me why Nemesis_Juggernaut was suspended?

If you hover your mouse over any suspension icon, a hover box will appear that contains whatever information the moderator provided at the time of suspension. If you do this for Nemesis_Juggernaut you see this:

See Message 119. I'm not actually sure this has a clear interpretation, but given that it was posted in the moderation discussion thread where there has been a lot of recent difficulty, and given that NJ was one of the principals, I'm erring on the side of caution and issuing a 1 week suspension. -Admin


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Message 219 of 361 (411618)
07-21-2007 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by Admin
07-21-2007 2:46 PM


Re: Suspended?
See Message 119. I'm not actually sure this has a clear interpretation, but given that it was posted in the moderation discussion thread where there has been a lot of recent difficulty, and given that NJ was one of the principals, I'm erring on the side of caution and issuing a 1 week suspension.

What?!?!?! :confused:

Message 119 is the reason why you are suspending me? Why?

Everyone kept referring to Berberry as a "she." I was being jocular when I quoted Austin Powers. Holy cow, man, you can't be serious!

And a week, at that??? That seems grossly disproportionate given the punishment doesn't fit the crime-- especially since you're "... not actually sure this has a clear interpretation."

Instead of "... erring on the side of caution," you could have just asked me. At least I could have edited in the event that it would have been construed as "offensive." You could have said, Hey, NJ, mind taking that down? I wouldn't want anyone getting the wrong impression about your completely benign, totally inoffensive message, seeing that your detractors manipulate everything you say, even though its been clarified, to DEATH, by people who don't even share your views but fully comprehend that you say what you mean, and mean what you say.

Edit to add: Perhaps we should continue the discussion via email rather than on the forum.

I can be reached at hyroglyphx77@yahoo.com

Edited by AdminNem, : Fixed italics

Edited by AdminNem, : Edit to add email address


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Message 220 of 361 (411625)
07-21-2007 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by AdminNem
07-21-2007 3:06 PM


Re: Suspended?
And a week, at that??? That seems grossly disproportionate given the punishment doesn't fit the crime-- especially since you're "... not actually sure this has a clear interpretation."

Actually I agree with this. The reason given means a week is grossly disproportionate. Upon further reflection and examining the threads I do think a suspension is probably in order: the infamous rape comment was not on topic, unnecessarily inflammatory and unrepresentative of the solicited opinion of Taz.

The General Moderation thread has been cluttered up with incessant debate for almost half its 'natural' length. Whilst there was nothing inherently wrong with the post itself, it did come after moderators showed concern about the clutter and I feel that your post was off topic and just contributed to the clutter.

So I'm reducing it to 2 days.


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Message 221 of 361 (411648)
07-21-2007 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by AdminNem
07-21-2007 3:06 PM


Re: Suspended?
You're taking advantage of your moderator status to post publicly. There's an admin version of this thread.


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Message 222 of 361 (411667)
07-21-2007 6:55 PM


THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION TOPIC!
This topic is a messages by admins only topic. It is only for keeping suspension records. Any discussion of said must go elsewhere, such as to the "General Discussion..." topic, link below.

Adminnemooseus


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Admin writes:

It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon.

There used to be a comedian who presented his ideas for a better world, and one of them was to arm everyone on the highway with little rubber dart guns. Every time you see a driver doing something stupid, you fire a little dart at his car. When a state trooper sees someone driving down the highway with a bunch of darts all over his car he pulls him over for being an idiot.

Please make it easy to tell you apart from the idiots. Source


  
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Message 223 of 361 (412235)
07-24-2007 8:50 AM


Rob suspended -- 2 days
Rob suspended for "holding". Holding forth on his beliefs in a science thread, making remarks about the science he knows little about and disparaging the motives of others.

Message 47


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Message 224 of 361 (412842)
07-26-2007 12:57 PM


Rob removed from Origin of Life
This is an indefinite suspension since Rob seems unable to stick to the topic.

He is also unable to remember what he has been told, see:
Message 53.

So he is wasting people's time.


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Message 225 of 361 (412969)
07-27-2007 1:18 AM


Jon given 6 hour suspension
The suspension hovertext says:

6 hour suspension. See here and upthread. Call it violations of rules 2 and 10, and in general, cluttering up the topic with irrelevant blather. - Adminnemooseus

And yes, riVeRraT is probably getting extra leniency, as we tend to do for the creationist etc. side. But watch it RR.

Added by edit: I'm also rather miffed by Kuresu's behavior.

Adminnemooseus

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.


New Members should start HERE to get an understanding of what makes great posts.

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Admin writes:

It really helps moderators figure out if a topic is disintegrating because of general misbehavior versus someone in particular if the originally non-misbehaving members kept it that way. When everyone is prickly and argumentative and off-topic and personal then it's just too difficult to tell. We have neither infinite time to untie the Gordian knot, nor the wisdom of Solomon.

There used to be a comedian who presented his ideas for a better world, and one of them was to arm everyone on the highway with little rubber dart guns. Every time you see a driver doing something stupid, you fire a little dart at his car. When a state trooper sees someone driving down the highway with a bunch of darts all over his car he pulls him over for being an idiot.

Please make it easy to tell you apart from the idiots. Source


  
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