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Chiroptera
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Message 57 of 304 (410788)
07-17-2007 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by Dan Carroll
07-17-2007 10:25 AM


Re: comparisons aren't insulting if there is a valid reason for drawing them
This would be a valid point, if NJ had, at any time, pointed out what objective act involved in homosexuality is comparable to rape and/or bestiality, and how it is comparable. He hasn't. His only basis for comparison is that he doesn't like any of them.
I'll also point out that NJ has always brought this up in the context of asking us about the moral distinctions we draw between the two. And we have always explained the moral difference between the two. For some reason, though, those pages show up blank on his web browser. He claims that we atheists (and, of course, anyone not opposed to homosexuality must be an atheist) have no basis for making moral distinctions, even though we constantly try to explain that we do.
If this is a matter for moderator action, it is largely because this has always come up in the context of a discussion where NJ refuses to even read the replies.
On the other hand, NJ has never really explained why he thinks that they are morally equivalent. (Well, we know why he does -- because some clown with that very shoddy type of theologic training associated with some Protestant sects, says it's in the Bible.)
Added by edit:
See this post.
Edited by Chiroptera, : Removed signature -- official matter forum
Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.

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Chiroptera
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Message 65 of 304 (410802)
07-17-2007 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by AdminModulous
07-17-2007 11:18 AM


Re: comparisons aren't insulting if there is a valid reason for drawing them
It was intended to be an intelligent criticism of moral relativity and how as a moral philosophy cannot differentiate between homosexuality and bestiality.
Well, okay, then the next step, after it is explained how a relative moral relativist can distinguish between the two, is to discuss the reasoning.
NJ never does that. In fact, he constantly ignores the reasoning.
Personally, I think he says that homosexuality is the same as bestiality because he likes to say it. It certainly has never been a part of a argument of a discussion that he has showed any interest in following through.

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Chiroptera
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Message 100 of 304 (410900)
07-17-2007 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Hyroglyphx
07-17-2007 2:51 PM


Re: comparisons aren't insulting if there is a valid reason for drawing them
Can you back up this assertion, please?
Fair enough request.
I can't find the thread that I do remember, and don't quite remember the other threads I thought I saw this.
So I'll withdraw my accusation.

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Chiroptera
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Message 206 of 304 (412851)
07-26-2007 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by Admin
07-25-2007 8:35 PM


Re: Readmitting of John Davison
Heh. I would have waited until he actually began to hold forth in his usual forthright manner, but your way is good, too.

I've done everything the Bible says, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff! -- Ned Flanders

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Chiroptera
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Message 208 of 304 (412873)
07-26-2007 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by MartinV
07-26-2007 3:31 PM


Re: Readmitting of John Davison
They are allowed to do so because they are darwinists - they do not break any rules whatever abuses they use.
Abusive language is not necessary in an argument using evidence and logic. If your argument is based on logic and evidence, you do not need to be abusive. Therefore, it does not put you at a disadvantage if you are not allowed to be abusive while those arguing against you are.
So, if you or Davison don't want to be banned, don't be abusive. You and Davison don't need to be, and, in fact, your argument looks better when you keep to the high ground.

I've done everything the Bible says, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff! -- Ned Flanders

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Chiroptera
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Message 245 of 304 (414130)
08-02-2007 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by Adminnemooseus
08-02-2007 9:13 PM


Re: Moose really losing it re: spidey and brenna
...neither are currently on line....
So they were suspended for something that ceased to be a problem?

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