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Author Topic:   Does the Errancy of Fundamentalism Disprove the God of the Bible?
Greatest I am
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Message 103 of 154 (406237)
06-18-2007 5:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DeclinetoState
01-24-2006 8:22 PM


A Perfect God
I believe that God is Perfect and that all that he has created is Perfect. Even as we stumble through our "imperfect" world, if there is to be a God then it must be our perceptions that are defective.
We see a broken cup and say that it is not perfect. We are correct but if the point of the breaking was to create a job for a cup maker, then we can say that the breaking was for a good reason even if we did not know of the reason beforehand.
If God is to be real then His purposes has to be applied to all the things happening about us.
Perfection does not mean lack of evolution.
If a newborn is said to be perfect, we call it that knowing full well that is is just starting to evolve. Perfection then can be said to be in constant flux as new factors are included in the big picture.
A person sickens and dies and we call this imperfect but we do not know that his lessons are all learned and God wants him in Heaven for a purpose or even to just make room on Earth.
Judgement is mine says the Lord.
In the end we have to allow God His function if all within a Perfect system have a function.
Regards
DL

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Message 105 of 154 (412874)
07-26-2007 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Mikael Fivel
07-26-2007 2:34 PM


Re: A Perfect God
You say you believe in a Perfect God and from this Perfection only imperfection comes. Strange.
If God started in a Perfect universe, then this universe is always Perfect.
At no point in time can God look at His reality and say oops I screwed up.
If His universe ever became or ever contained imperfection it would mean that God screwed up.
God does not do oops.
As a Christian, how can you place a blemish on God?
Regards
DL

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Message 107 of 154 (413009)
07-27-2007 9:26 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Mikael Fivel
07-26-2007 4:41 PM


Re: A Perfect God
So God said the world was good and then broke his own law of killing with a genocidal flood.
I like your God less and less.
My God did not need to fix what was not broken. No flood.
He started us on the right tract and we remain in the right tract. God would have it no other way.
Only those who do not believe in Jesus believe that the end of this earth will be a cataclysmic culling of mankind.
Regards
DL

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Message 109 of 154 (413250)
07-30-2007 4:31 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Mikael Fivel
07-27-2007 5:04 PM


Re: A Perfect God
I follow the philosophy of Jesus.
The flood did not happen. God would not break His own law of killing man.
If He were to adjust mankind I'm sure it would be successful. You believe He adjusted us with a genocidal act against His own creations and failed miserably in His efforts.
Why, if we are talking of the same God is tour version such a looser when mine wins?
If God is to cull as you say at end time then the Hell created would forever be a blemish on God's record. Is this realyy how you view God at end time.
Do you see Him tallying His Perfectly created souls two for me four for hell, 14 for me 19 for hell.
Look again at God for the first time and give Him a little ability to do things right the first time and every time.
Regards
DL

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