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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
There seems to be many theories and explanations about "how" the world came into existence. Most religions would say that a supernatural being just made the world and the methods that were used couldn’t be understood. The scientists on the other hand, have come up with a very sophisticated explanation of how this world has evolved from nothing. Although I understand that there is enough debate on which path is true, I want to ask the question of why the world exists. According to religions, why did the supernatural create a world? According to the scientific community, why did the nothing turn into something? My oppinion is that a "nothing" does not have a choice in the matter. Being nothing, it does not have any capabilities and it will do only nothing. Therefore I dont think there is any answer to the question according to the scientists other than the nature of nothing is to become something. Although most religions do not offer a good answer to this question, I don't think it is logical for the scientists to dismiss this question. If no why can be thought of than the scientific theories are not complete, and the religions that answer this question will be more credible than science.
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
I dont know how that repeat happened but I fixed it. I also narrowed the topic to a question on how credible the scientific theories can be if they dont give an explanation of why the world exists.
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
I dont think the person who answers by saying that no answer exists is better than someone who says they have an answer. Furthermore, for some reason everything else in the world has an answer to the question why?
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
Why is it impossible for a world not to exist? That statement makes no sense. From a science perspective, why/what would cause absolute nothingness to have to become a world? From a religious perspective, why would anything want to create a world?
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
It seems to me that this word should not exist in a scientist’s vocabulary, and it should not exist in the vocabulary of any non-religious person. This word must have been the invention of those religious worshipers. For any question that one can use the word "why", the word "how" can just as easily be substituted. A good example is the question, Why is there evil in the world? A scientist explaining how the evil in the world evolved from nothing can then give a lecture. If one asks why a person committed a crime, a scientific individual would explain how the chemicals in his brain along with the persons surroundings, caused him to do the crime. Notice that the answer given would not explain why the person did it. To even accept the word "why" as a question, one must be taking a non-deterministic approach to life, and one must believe that the person acting has some sort of freewill in order to make a thought out decision. Basically, its not that the scientists don’t deal with the question of why, its that the scientists don’t even consider the word “why” to be a real word of meaning.
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
Q: Why did God create the existence of man?
I don't know where you got this answer to your question.
A: So that we could worship him If you are hoping to feed the very human need for actual conscious meaning or intent in your 'why' then you will need to turn to religion.
The only answers to the question "why?" is either conscious meaning or intent, or its just because.
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
I have a good question for you. Where did the matter or cloud that was around before the big bang come from. Is that the part of the world which by your definition "has to exist." If you claim that a world has to exist, Why did the entire world not just exist from the begining?
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
but my point is that even if you claim to know Gods intent you still end up with the question 'why' as to that intent.
You may not understand the concept of a religious perspective of a supreme being. The idea is that this being cannot be completely understood by humans because humans were not given the ability to understand Him. In fact, the only one who can truly understand the nature of the Supreme Being is He Himself. Therefore, one cannot question the nature of the Being or the intent behind the decision. In a religious perspective the Supreme Being has given us a limited logical framework along with the world. Asking what causes this being to make decisions would be the equivalent of asking what causes the being to continue to exist.
So what would your answer be to that question?
My answer would be along the lines of reward for those who listen to his words. The reason for this world was not for us to serve; rather, the purpose of this world is for us to have a reward. Everyone religious would believe that there is a reward for following the rules. If our sole purpose was to worship than why would there need to be any reward? Furthermore if the sole purpose of the world were for the Creator to be worshiped, why would any blasphemy be tolerated at all? The sinners should be destroyed the instant they sin. In my framework, the purpose of our existence on this world is to earn a reward that is set-aside for us on another world. The reason for creating the world is because it is the "nature" (so to speak) of the creator to want to give to others.and what intent is there behind whatever motive you give God for that answer. The whole purpose of this world was to create others to give to.
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
Imagine creating a person knowing before you created him/her that they would be burning in Hell forever. What makes you think that anyone is "burning in Hell forever"?
And created in the foreknowledge that they would not be sufficiently sycophantic or sycophantic the wrong way. You are asking a very famous question. But, the answer is fairly simple. Knowing the future is not controlling the future. When one is created he has freewill. When he sins he is doing it out of his acting on his own volition and he will be punished. He will still be given a chance to earn his reward even though his Creator knows that he will not merit it.
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
As to the "before the Big Bang" question, I'm not sure that even has any meaning. It certainly has little to do with our world. I was not talking about the creation of our solar system, I was talking about the matter that you claim existed "before the big bang." There had to be something before the big bang. If there was absolutely nothing before the big bang than you come back to my original question which was, how can something come from nothing?
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
Because it is inevitable.
Who says? Do you think that answer makes sense?
science doesn't say the world came from absolute nothingness. If it did not than what did it come from? Who made that?
The laws of physics demand that the universe forms.
Again I ask, who says? Who wrote these laws of physics?
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Open MInd Member (Idle past 1254 days) Posts: 261 Joined: |
The responce to your statement is simple. The question of why the world was created is easily answered. In fact, the answer was given by the creator himself. The questions that have no answer understandable by humans are for example: Why does the Creator want to do kindness? How did the Creator come into existance? or What is the nature of this Creator's existance? The basic question "why?" can be answered. The perpetual "why?" will not be answered because we can not understand it.
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