Mode of the Debate: Targeting Children

i saw that movie. it made me want to vomit.that was nothing like my childhood in the church. sure we sang and learned stories about jesus, but we were never used in political activity and we never learned about such political positions. i stopped going to my last member church after someone shared that there was a group from the church going to the local abortion clinic.but then my parents were sane and may have excluded me purposely from such things. as such, i think there's something to be said for responsible parenting. i can't trust anyone who would include persons under 16 in their political action.Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.

they don't just lie to children. ask any adult fundie what their idea of evolution is, and i bet it's the same.

considering that most people can't comprehend the reality of modern science and that while many evolutionistas (spelled purposely like fashionistas) have considered the philosophical consequences of evolution versus creation, most people who accept evolution probably accept it because of what some book/person/organisation told them.there's nothing wrong with trusting what people or books tell you, as long as you consider what you know about it and how it mixes with what else you accept. the religious idea of "testing the spirits" is applicable to secular life. you have to consider your source and how trustworthy it is.

i agree. for a year and a half of middle school i was enrolled at a christian school. aside from a single chapel (wednesday mornings) visit by the illustrious kent hovid (yes, i went to school in pensacola), the only other exposure we had to evolution in any sense was 7th grade science on the first day. we used ordinary science books and we skipped the first some chapters with a small blurb from my teacher (who i'm not sure was convinced) of "we're skipping these because we don't believe in them." (this of course led me to spend that class period reading those chapters.) however, we spent multiple bible classes and chapel sessions and even combined courses on sexual purity. in sixth grade all the boys and girls from my level were brought together and told how disappointed our teachers were that some student had claimed that he'd already 'had a girl in his bed'. we were separated after a long lecture and instructed in our separate groups about basic gender issues and how we were called to purity specific to our sex. i'm sure there was more, but i don't really remember. i was so beyond worrying at boys at that time. i had crushes, but i barely had friends.i agree that the concerns of isolationist christians are much more complex than the anti-evolutionist agenda. evolution is easy to combat. sex isn't.

i'm convinced that the most effective target is the post-adolescent group containing individuals who have done things they're not pleased with (the extent of these things is relative to the individual). the most fervent believers i've met are those running from their own past. they're also the quickest to blame others for their failure to renounce themselves.