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Author Topic:   Help me find a hypocrite!
riVeRraT
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Message 85 of 160 (415507)
08-10-2007 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nuggin
04-14-2007 9:35 PM


Hillary Clinton
Why would you need help finding out how much of a hypocrite she is?
A google search on, why Hillary Clinton is a hypocrite returned 337,000 pages.
Here's one.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../04/20/AR2007042001589.html
That's on the heels of her making a plea to stop world wide prostitution. She gets her money from people who glorify the things she denounces.
Not to mention she is just an outright liar.
I would love to see a woman as President, but not her. She has a paper thin record, and is running on her husband's success.
They should name a dance after her, called the sidestep tango.
My question to is, why would one side be any better than the other?
There is no difference between the word politician, and hypocrite.
Arnold for President!
Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 88 of 160 (415554)
08-10-2007 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by nator
08-10-2007 6:34 PM


Re: Hillary Clinton
popular and skillful Senator from the state of New York.
Being popular doesnt make you skillful.
I live in NY, and I have yet to experience anything positive from her. Pretty much any time I pay attention to her, it's like a joke.
Last thing I really got involved in was her kooky ideas for health coverage for the US, when Clinton was President.
If they are all hypocrites, then so is Arnold. He's just as bad, right?
Arnold is in politics, but he's no politician.
If Arnold's well meaning, isn't enough to make him president, then what is? A good liar?

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riVeRraT
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Message 89 of 160 (415555)
08-10-2007 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Nuggin
08-10-2007 6:59 PM


Re: Hillary Clinton
Nuggin, I am well aware of what rappers mean when they say things. I actually *gasp* hang out with black people, and even preferred hanging with the brothers over most of the white people I knew in the city.
Alot of it is uncalled for, and glorifies bad things.
It's ok if you want to rap about what is bad in your life, and express that you would like some kind of change, or even just to rap about it, but not to glorify it, I don't find that constructive at all. And so do many black people.
Here is another article that shows she takes money from people who are into the "wrong" aspect of prostitution.
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/hypocrit.htm
I can't vouch if it's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Hillary has all these morals, until it comes to the dollar, then it's out the window, and anything goes. That's my impression of her.
I even feel staying with her husband, was just apolitical move on her part, and had nothing to do with love.
IT all depends on what the meaning of "is" is.

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riVeRraT
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Message 105 of 160 (415614)
08-11-2007 3:36 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by jar
08-10-2007 8:06 PM


Re: And you wonder why no one can take you seriously.
Absolutely nothing but your personal bias.
Personal bias based on what I see and read.
So what, it still could be true. I've seen enough from this lady, that I am not interested in following what she is doing.
You claim it is my personal bias, but what else to we have to go on but the media, isn't your argument with the media? You've just admitted that the media sucks then.
Besides, I see Hillary as the type of person that would never admit to anything, just like her husband, maybe I am wrong and it is love.
I did mention that anyway, so why point it out?
Anyone who would stick up for her, is wasting their time, she has no integrity.
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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 106 of 160 (415615)
08-11-2007 3:39 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by macaroniandcheese
08-10-2007 9:01 PM


Re: Hillary Clinton
i guess being a pervert doesn't matter as long as he supports the right people.
nator called him well meaning, argue with her, she has an education.
Besides, isn't being a pervert some kind of requirement to be a politician?

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riVeRraT
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Message 114 of 160 (415682)
08-11-2007 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by nator
08-11-2007 9:35 AM


Re: And you wonder why no one can take you seriously.
Rat, are you going to demonstrate how Hillary is engaging in international prostitution?
That's already been done.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 115 of 160 (415684)
08-11-2007 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by nator
08-11-2007 9:46 AM


Re: Hillary Clinton
What kooky ideas?
Exactly.
And here is a quote from the link you provided.
"I have also spoken out against the culture of violence and sex in the media, comparing this growing problem to a disease that, if left untreated, will become an epidemic."
But she takes money from those very same rappers.
Also interesting was this quote:
"I have championed legislation that would create the first-ever coordinated research center devoted to revealing the impact of media on our children. This center would focus particularly on the impact of media on infants, an area that is widely not understood, and on the growing link between television viewing and childhood obesity."
From which you say there is no problem at all. So the politician you are sticking up for, goes against your own morals.
She is a threat to our constitution, according to your very own logic.
I am not interesting in debating about Hillary Clinton, her own actions should speak for themselves.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 120 of 160 (415959)
08-13-2007 5:48 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by nator
08-11-2007 3:59 PM


Re: Hillary Clinton
When did I ever say it would be bad to do research on the impact of media on infants and the link between TV watching and childhood obesity?
What I am against is L E G I S L A T I O N that controls content.
And just what do you think that survey would be used for?
It is remarkable how wrong you are, all the time.
Keep your BS comments to yourself.

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 125 of 160 (416028)
08-13-2007 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by nator
08-13-2007 7:41 AM


Re: Hillary Clinton
Oh, and are you going to provide evidence that Senator Clinton is a madam in a brothel, or heads an international prostitution cartel, or similar?
Why should I? I didn't make that accusation, you did.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 131 of 160 (416085)
08-13-2007 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by nator
08-13-2007 1:38 PM


Re: Hillary Clinton
I asked you to provide evidence that Senator Clinton was personally involved in international prostitution.
No, you didn't the second time, you asked:
Oh, and are you going to provide evidence that Senator Clinton is a madam in a brothel, or heads an international prostitution cartel, or similar?
Two different things.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 135 of 160 (416147)
08-14-2007 6:59 AM
Reply to: Message 133 by nator
08-13-2007 11:09 PM


Re: Hillary Clinton
If Hillary takes money to support her own agenda, from people who are well known to be involved in those things, doesn't that make her part of it?

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riVeRraT
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Message 136 of 160 (416148)
08-14-2007 7:01 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by Omnivorous
08-11-2007 12:30 AM


Re: Here's Another.
I once had friends who used CO2 to promote the growth of certain, ah...plants.
MMMMMM, wonder what that was.....
Here is a question (and it is not loaded taz), would certain plants benefit more from and increase of CO2 than others, and then create an imbalance in our eco system?

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 141 of 160 (416190)
08-14-2007 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by kuresu
08-14-2007 7:20 AM


Re: Hillary Clinton
Your evidence, so far, ain't up to snuff.
Of course it is. If Hillary Clintons morals matched her pocket book, then she wouldn't take money (money earned from the things she is against) from people like Timbaland. One of the links I provided shows where Timbalands head is at.
It is the same reasoning behind why big companies withdrew their advertising from the Don Imus show. They did not want to be associated with him, in fear that they would be accused of supporting what he said.
It's just not good politics, and I find it hypocritical.

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 142 of 160 (416191)
08-14-2007 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by nator
08-14-2007 8:29 AM


Re: Hillary Clinton
I guess that means that any politician who takes money from the American Family Institute that Ted Haggerd started must also be directly involved in gay prostitution and Methamhetamine use.
No....it means they support it then. Which if they publically denounced it, would make them hypocrites.

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 146 of 160 (416249)
08-14-2007 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by kuresu
08-14-2007 4:00 PM


Re: Hillary Clinton
Oh, the irony. Hear your saying, in effect, that you can give money to a person without being connected to that person.
No I am not saying that at all. You are connected.
Here is another instance:
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/hypocrit.htm

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