Help me find a hypocrite!

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Being popular doesnt make you skillful.

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I live in NY, and I have yet to experience anything positive from her. Pretty much any time I pay attention to her, it's like a joke.

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Last thing I really got involved in was her kooky ideas for health coverage for the US, when Clinton was President.

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What kooky ideas?

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Arnold is in politics, but he's no politician.

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Bullshit. He's a very skillful politician, otherwise he couldn't have gotten elected as a Republican in California.

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If Arnold's well meaning, isn't enough to make him president, then what is? A good liar?

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Well, he wasn't born in the US, so that disqualifies him right there.He isn't experienced enough to be president, either.He's not done a very good job in California, in case you haven't noticed.Oh, and since you are a father, I thoght you might like to read this page on Senator Clinton's website that outlines her efforts in the Senate to improve services to children and families.Have you ever been to her website and read about her positions on the issues and her votes?

Neither of these are what the OP is about, though.The example we are looking for is the democrat or liberal version of something like "Republican legislator who pushed for ban on public sex arrested for having sex in public".

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That's already been done.

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Really?You have evidence that she's a madam in a brothel somewhere, perhaps?Is she running a cartel that traffics in humans?Is she offering $20 to blow some guy in a public restroom?...oh, wait.

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Also interesting was this quote:
"I have championed legislation that would create the first-ever coordinated research center devoted to revealing the impact of media on our children. This center would focus particularly on the impact of media on infants, an area that is widely not understood, and on the growing link between television viewing and childhood obesity."

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From which you say there is no problem at all. So the politician you are sticking up for, goes against your own morals.

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She is a threat to our constitution, according to your very own logic.

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WTF are you talking about, rat?When did I ever say it would be bad to do research on the impact of media on infants and the link between TV watching and childhood obesity?What I am against is L E G I S L A T I O N that controls content.She does not support censorship, but instead wishes to fund the research that would give parents the information they need to do their jobs as parents regarding the TV watching their children do.It is remarkable how wrong you are, all the time.

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So apparently, nobody has ever heard of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton?

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Sure, I've heard of them.How are they hypocrites, exactly?

I'm not a particular supporter of Sen. Clinton, either.It's just that Riverrat is talking a lot of bullshit about her.

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And just what do you think that survey would be used for?

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Parental guidelines?Maybe to find out if there really is a bad effect on infants or if there isn't anything to be concerned with?Oh, and are you going to provide evidence that Senator Clinton is a madam in a brothel, or heads an international prostitution cartel, or similar?Remember, you claimed that she was participating in international prostitution.Now it is time for you to support that claim or retract it.

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Why should I? I didn't make that accusation, you did.

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I asked you to provide evidence that Senator Clinton was personally involved in international prostitution.You said that it had "already been done".Please link to the post where you provided evidence to that effect or retract your claim that you have indeed shown that Clinton is directly involved in international prostitution.

OK, I'll accept that is a hypocrite on the liberal side.Sorry, I can't share your pain with seeing him on TV. I got rid of TV over a year ago and it has been wonderful.

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Are you just agreeing with me because I'm on the liberal side? You seem to be very gungho on other cases of supposed liberal hypocrisy.

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I wasn't agreeing with you, really, but with Answers in Gene Simmons.But I was thinking...Does Jesse Jackson actually harp on about the sanctity of marriage and family values and stuff, and condemn adulterers specifically, or do you assume that he does becasue he's a preacher? I really don't know because I haven't paid him any attention in years.

OK, let me state it in the way you like it, since you insist upon trying to weasel about as much as possible to avoid correcting yourself.I asked you to provide evidence that Senator Clinton was personally involved in international prostitution.You said that it had already been done.Please provide evidence that Clinton is personally involved in international prostitution or retract the claim.

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If Hillary takes money to support her own agenda, from people who are well known to be involved in those things, doesn't that make her part of it?

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No.This has already been explained to you, back in message #86 by me: ...and also by Nuggin a couple of messages after that: Are you actually saying that a US gansta rapper is [b]literally[/i] personally involved in the international sex slave trade?Because he uses the word "hos" in his raps?And that Clinton is literally personally involved in international prostitution because she took a contribution from a promoter who has many clients, one of which is a rapper who uses the word "hos"?I guess that means that any politician who takes money from the American Family Institute that Ted Haggerd started must also be directly involved in gay prostitution and Methamhetamine use.Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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One doesn't need to condemn outright adulterers and then commit adultery to be a hypocrit.

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Well yes, actually, you do.Not living up to one's own religious standards is not hypocrisy. Sinning or making mistakes is not hypocrisy.

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Unless Jesse Jackson is preaching some kind of weird-ass christian form of marriage, the fact that he's a preacher that has a whole second family makes him a hypocrit.

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If you are going to call this hypocrisy, then your definition is way too broad. Worse, it isn't interesting.If we use your definition, than every single Christian preachers are hypocrites, since all of them sin.That's not interesting. The hypocrisy defined in the OP of someone being caught engaging in the specific and particular activity that they specifically and particularly condemn is very interesting.As far as I know, Jackson didn't ever make a special point of railing against the evils of adultery.

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No....it means they support it then.

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You can't even follow your own argument.The above is your own argument plugged into a different example, rat.But anyway, it is almost as asinine to suggest that a politician that accepted money from Haggerd's AFI supports meth-fuled sex with gay prostitutes as it is for you to suggest that Clinton accepting contributions from a producer who has a client who uses the word "hos" in his raps is tantamount to her being directly involved in international prostitution.You have used the expression "fuck you" on this board, rat.Therefore, you must be an advocate of rape.See, I can play this game too!

If I told you that I knew someone who was directly involved in international prostitution, what kinds of things would pop into your mind?What sorts of things would you suppose this person might do in relation to international prostitution?