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Hyroglyphx
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Message 256 of 304 (413511)
07-31-2007 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 255 by macaroniandcheese
07-30-2007 1:34 PM


Re: Bible Study Cover to Cover
Another request for a bump as Genesis will begin on Wednesday.
It's not too late to start reading!
I'm game. However, just Genesis alone is extremely voluminous as it covers several millenia. And theoretically we could be caught up discussing the first chapter for an entire thread, let alone the whole Bible from cover to cover.
Since this is your baby, I'm suggesting that you control the tone and of the thread to keep it flowing.
Does that sound like a reasonable request?

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt

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Message 257 of 304 (413521)
07-31-2007 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 256 by Hyroglyphx
07-31-2007 9:04 AM


Re: Bible Study Cover to Cover
we could be caught up discussing the first chapter for an entire thread
as there is another thread for that at this exact moment, it would be off-topic in this thread.
you control the tone and of the thread to keep it flowing.
control yourself.
if people refuse to think of this as the study of a book, then they can piss off. as i said in the thread (which you should read, btw) people should present their notes from the book and then we discuss from there where people have interest. if it devolves into a fight about whether the flood happened or what the meaning of the word "create" is, i'd suggest people get booted.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 258 of 304 (413573)
07-31-2007 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by macaroniandcheese
07-31-2007 9:44 AM


Re: Bible Study Cover to Cover
quote:
as there is another thread for that at this exact moment, it would be off-topic in this thread.
you control the tone and of the thread to keep it flowing.
control yourself.
if people refuse to think of this as the study of a book, then they can piss off. as i said in the thread (which you should read, btw)
Where is it posted? I was told that it wouldn't be up and running until Wednesday.
people should present their notes from the book and then we discuss from there where people have interest. if it devolves into a fight about whether the flood happened or what the meaning of the word "create" is, i'd suggest people get booted.
That's what I was saying. I was suggesting that perhaps you should control the tone of the thread.

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt

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Message 259 of 304 (413580)
07-31-2007 3:09 PM
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07-31-2007 2:40 PM


Re: Bible Study Cover to Cover
Where is it posted? I was told that it wouldn't be up and running until Wednesday.
in the OP of the thread?
I was suggesting that perhaps you should control the tone of the thread.
i'm not an admin. control yourself. if you don't bring up the off-topic crap about genesis 1 or drag us into some other debate about whether this crap really happened or not, i guess it won't happen then, will it?

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Message 260 of 304 (413688)
07-31-2007 11:00 PM


Action on Bible study
i'd say it's 11pm here and there's half a world already in tomorrow. i'm going to bed and i think we should open the bible study thread now so i can do my little example notes before i go to bed and people get all antsy.
of course, i'm probably being a bit hopeful to think anyone is getting antsy over this thread besides me.
http://EvC Forum: Bible Study Cover to Cover -->EvC Forum: Bible Study Cover to Cover
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Message 261 of 304 (414697)
08-05-2007 7:25 PM


Chess counsel
Please do not reply to this message. A new thread has been opened in [forum=-14]: Chess counsel
--Admin
Hello. I have recently taken up chess. It's a game I played sometimes when I was a kid, but now have taken a more serious approach. I want to learn the different stategies and tactics that are employed, and how best to use each in certain situations.
I am a member at gameknot.com, and fairly routinely have my ass handed to me by more experienced, and brighter people.
My questions are: if you play chess, what advice would you give a novice? What websites, books, exercise books, etc. would you recommend I take up?
I have seen a few tips that are fairly common, and from what little I understand, are in no particular order:
1- protect your king
2- control the middle
3- develop your pieces (knights, bishops, rooks(sp?)
Lastly, I did see the EVC chess competetion thread, and saw this thread first, seeing it to be fit for these questions, as well.
Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.
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Ihategod
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Message 262 of 304 (416484)
08-15-2007 10:29 PM


Evidence for macro evolution
like the title says, i would like some please.
websites and book referrals.
no micro evolution (variations within a kind) jargon painted to look like macro evidence please.
feed the troll please.
btw by macro i mean whatever the foook you think happened to get us where we are now as humanoid.
no speciation shaz either please.
thanks alot i love you.

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Chiroptera
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Message 263 of 304 (416486)
08-15-2007 10:50 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Ihategod
08-15-2007 10:29 PM


Re: Evidence for macro evolution
Welcome to EvC, Vashgun.
My favorite single web page is Douglas Theobald's 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution. I like it because not only does it give a brief description of several different threads of evidence in different fields of biology, but he also explains just what evidence means in science, and why these count as evidence in the theory-prediction-observation-confirmation model of how science works. I think this is important because many creationists don't understand what science is, how it operates, and why evolutionary biology fits into what is considered good science.
My single favorite evidence (and, to me, most compelling - it was what made me say, "uh-oh," when I was still a creationist) is the nested hierarchical classification of the species.
When you've read some of this page and digested it, join us in some of the other threads to discuss the issues.
As far as good books go, I would recommend any of Stephen Jay Gould's earlier collections of essays when he wrote a column for Natural History: Ever Since Darwin, The Panda's Thumb, Hen's Teeth and Horse's Toes, and The Flamingo's Smile. I also thought The Blind Watchmaker was decent.
Added by edit:
I should add that The Blind Watchmaker is by Richard Dawkins.
Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Message 264 of 304 (416489)
08-15-2007 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by Ihategod
08-15-2007 10:29 PM


Evidence for genesis
Since this thread is for short Q & A, I have the following for you.
Can you give any evidence for the 7 days creation story? No biblical jargon to support claims made by the bible please.
thanks alot i love you.
No wucking fay.
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Ihategod
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Message 265 of 304 (416519)
08-16-2007 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 264 by Taz
08-15-2007 11:17 PM


Re: Evidence for genesis
What does this have to do with my question?
Maybe I'm a God-hater like you

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Taz
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Message 266 of 304 (416534)
08-16-2007 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by Ihategod
08-16-2007 9:19 AM


Re: Evidence for genesis
Read the thread title again. Post your short question here blah blah blah blah. I posted a short question for you. Nothing to do with your short question.
Maybe I'm a God-hater like you
Ok, can you give me any evidence for my god-hating nature?

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Message 267 of 304 (416546)
08-16-2007 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by Taz
08-16-2007 12:57 PM


Re: Evidence for genesis
There are plenty of discussion threads, let's not turn this into one of them as it is not this thread's intended purpose. Allow Vashgun to decide whether he wants to participate in a discussion thread, perhaps you can suggest one for him.

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Ihategod
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Message 268 of 304 (416593)
08-16-2007 9:16 PM


1v1 debate
Can I debate an evolutionist?
one on one?
A reply would be awesome thanks,

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Message 269 of 304 (416597)
08-16-2007 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 268 by Ihategod
08-16-2007 9:16 PM


Re: 1v1 debate
I suggest you participate in currently active threads so that everyone can get to know you better.

--Percy
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Ihategod
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Message 270 of 304 (416607)
08-16-2007 11:38 PM


I might get nuked...
Here I go,
Whilst reading many threads I have come to perhaps, a premature conclusion based on the review of the last few days. And that conclusion is that the majority of the users here and also the admins and mods are evolutionists.
It is as if all the creationists have either deserted or been blasted away by the mighty power of the Law of Evolution. I have seen only 3 creationists post, and subsequently many evolutionist attack the poster with disdain and arrogance more fitting a small child.
Also I was mocked numerous times in the chat feature by a member named Jar. I have found it difficult to start any threads due to the number of previous threads of similar topics. I came for a debate and was denied. I however, did not come to read volumes of pages of previous debates and the few I read disgusted me due to the lack of debate prowess and ignorance presented mainly by the creation minded.
The lack of warmth and obvious monopoly coupled with the arrogance I since in every post leads me to the conclusion that this site is more an evolutionary think tank and not a open forum debate.
To keep to the nature of the thread I will ask a question.
Am I being irrational in my assessment?

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