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Author Topic:   On creationists' beliefs
nator
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Message 26 of 59 (4175)
02-11-2002 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by KingPenguin
02-08-2002 4:47 PM


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Originally posted by KingPenguin:
[b] i could make the same generalizations about any evolutionists but i wont because i know its not fair to discriminate people like that. Even if the slim chance that evolution is true it doesnt disprove anything, its a just a way of explain how things happened.[/QUOTE]
Except that the ToE is a scientific theory supported by evidence. Lots of it.
Have you studied Biology above the high school level, BTW? Do you even know the basics of Evolutionary theory? Why don't you briefly explain what you know about evolution? Surely you must have a rather complete, competant grasp of the theory and the evidence supporting it for you to make claims about it's veracity.
The bible doesnt specify things and it might have been dumbed down to make it easier to understand and believe, imagine back then the earth being a sphere probably was never considered and even if you thought that you were probably frowned upon or maybe even killed.[/QUOTE]
What does the Earth being a sphere have to do with the ToE?
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Even with all of that the universe didnt just appear
Do you know this or believe this? If you believe this, then it's something you take on faith. If it's something you think you know, then let's see the evidence.
Also, what does this have to do with the ToE?
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and the big bang theory has yet to become fact.
What does the Big Bang have to do with the ToE? The origin of the Universe has nothing to do with the ToE. Please do not conflate all the scientific theories you object to on religious grounds into one mess.
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A fact that helps proves creation is that we count down to and from the year of christ's birth, i highly doubt that people would just start counting from there and have it become worldwide without enough evidence to convince everyone that God does exist.
Wow, did you even think about that before you wrote it??
It is hardly a "worldwide" practice to use Christ's birth as a reference point in a calender.
Neither the Chinese, the Muslims nor the Jews keep the same calender that we do, for example. Our calender is called the Gregorian calender because it's named after the Pope who instituted it. Since the Catholic church was a huge political and religious power in the West at that time, they got to choose where we started our calender.
Neither does using Christ's birth as a reference point in a calender have anything to do with proving God's existence.
[QUOTE]if you actually had enough evidence to prove evolution and disprove creation, like so many of you claim, then surely we would be in the year whatever starting from mans first existence according to evolution.
[/b][/QUOTE]
Why the heck would a scientific Theory influence the choice of calender? That is truly a strange illogical conclusion.
Actually, we use B.C.E (Before the Common Era), and C.E.(the Common Era) now, at least in better educated and academic circles. We are moving away from the constant reference to Christ as a calender reference.

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