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Wonderly2
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Message 1 of 27 (417423)
08-20-2007 11:56 PM


I took a chicken bone after dinner one night, and sat down to draw it. How did this come to be, I then asked myself? How did this bone form itself from a few cells? How did it turn into a specific shape, a specific size, and for a specific purpose. As I reflect on this simple fact I am just astounded.
As I skimmed these forums, I saw a number of people who are either extremely arrogant, or who posses a knowledge of the world which is far beyond my comprehension.
So too you 'smart' guys I ask, how does this happen? How does a cell turn into a bone? I am speaking of development from conception, rather than evolution.
If the answer to this question cannot be given, than it seems to me that science should spent more time trying the understand the marvels around us, and less time guessing where it came from.
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Wonderly2
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Message 3 of 27 (417475)
08-21-2007 9:51 AM


That is the question.

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Message 5 of 27 (418190)
08-26-2007 9:43 PM
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08-26-2007 4:59 PM


Re: The Proverbial Fork In The Road
Yes this is a science question.
I ask it here, because it seems there are people here that are knowledgeable in this area.
"why can't you simply get information on google and from encyclopedias and dictionaries on how bones are made?"
I have, but have not found a good enough explanation. For example, this is what I find in an encyclopedia when I look for my answer:
1. Development of ossification center
2. Calcification
3. Formation of trabeculae
4. Development of periosteum
These things really do not say anything. How does "periosteum" "develope"? How does "trabeculae" form?
I just have not been able to find these answers.

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Wonderly2
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Message 13 of 27 (418214)
08-27-2007 12:23 AM


yea sorry guys, I did not explain correctly. I am talking about "developmental biology" Or how a bone forms from birth.
Chiroptera, do you understand it?
Does science fully understand it? I have found talk about different stages, however nothing which actually explains what is happening, just the results at certain intervals.

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Message 16 of 27 (418218)
08-27-2007 12:34 AM


"either way, and not to be insulting, this might be included in that category. the evolutionary answer involves basically everything from proto-chordates, to boneless fishes, to osteicthys, to tiktaalik and early amphibians, to reptiles, to archosauria, to dinosaurs, to theropoda, into aves. way, way too much to go over at one time, in a single sitting -- way to much even for a single thread.
developmentally, i can't answer that question very well. someone else will have to take it. "
This is what I cannot understand. If you do not know how a bone forms from birth, something which scientists can actually observe, why would you even start to think you know how it developed from nothing?
And the reason I post this thread, is that if science does not even know the complexities involved in the developmental process, than it seems ridiculous for science to question its ultimate origin. Why not actually do the scientific stuff first. Spend more time observing and testing, and less guessing about the past. Of course, this whole thought is based on the fact that I have not found answers from science. That of course does not mean that one does not exist. That is where you all come in.

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Wonderly2
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Message 17 of 27 (418220)
08-27-2007 12:36 AM


lets say conception.

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