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Omnivorous
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Message 16 of 25 (417147)
08-19-2007 5:57 PM


Author: RAZD
Forum: Biological Evolution
Thread: Dr. Schwartz' "MIssing Links"
Msg #: http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=769&m=72#71

Brilliant echolalia--very meta :)

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Do humans have to have them twice then? have them twice then?

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Message 17 of 25 (417941)
08-25-2007 12:40 PM


Hoot Mon
Hoot Mon is crisp and clear and offers a view that is different from others.

I admit to nominating this one because I agree with him and because I haven't often agreed :).

Oops
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Edited by NosyNed, : left out the darned message I was nominating


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Message 18 of 25 (417946)
08-25-2007 1:02 PM


Archer Opterix's essay on Buddhism
Archer once again scores with clarity and conciseness.

Archer does a great job explaining the Buddhist and Taoist perspective concerning the ultimate reality and no-thing.

www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=33&t=41&m=263#263 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=33&t=41&m=263#263">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=33&t=41&m=263#263

I particularly like his frustration with the inadequacy of the various labels of religious affiliation (atheist, agnostic, theist, deist, etc.). I also find that my own continuously evolving views are not contained or wholly adverse to any of these classifications.

Thanks Archer for sharing you insight.


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Message 19 of 25 (417963)
08-25-2007 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by NosyNed
08-25-2007 12:40 PM


Re: Hoot Mon
What topic/message?

Adminnemooseus


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Message 20 of 25 (417964)
08-25-2007 4:37 PM
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08-25-2007 4:12 PM


Hoot Mon's Msg
Added it. :o

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Message 21 of 25 (418052)
08-26-2007 3:25 AM


iceage in Great Debate
Author: iceage
Forum: The Great Debate
Thread: Biblical Coherency (Rob and Iceage Only)
MSG #: http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=8&t=164&m=24#24

Rob writes:

It is up to us to take responsibility, and sometimes wipe out whole communities to keep the 'total organism' within our control.

quote:
Yikes! glad the Christian theist are no longer in control.

Those who blasphemously worship the bible itself and their "faith" requires that the Bible be considered as a whole divinely inspired work of the creator, this specific ethical contradiction is the best antidote to that notion. Other contradictions like Matthew misquoting and misreferencing the OT and gemological errors are trivial by comparison. The wide gaping disparity between godly commanded genocide and loving your neighbor is too wide to justify honestly or rationally.

As an aside, I believe the chief value of the Bible is the documentation of the evolution or transformation of human ethics, such as:

Love your tribal neighbor -> Love your non-tribal neighbor -> Love your enemy.


This observation so neatly sums up the problem I (and I presume others) have with Biblical fundamentalists, as any thinking person IMHO would have concerning fundamentalists of any religious, political, or a combination of both, persuasions.

Edited by anglagard, : add an appropriate comma

Edited by anglagard, : correct msg=


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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Message 22 of 25 (418055)
08-26-2007 4:03 AM
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08-26-2007 3:25 AM


Re: iceage in Great Debate
Seconded. I was delighted to see iceage note the progression of moral thought over the centuries. Astute observation.

Anyone endeavouring to follow Christ's teachings has to start with "Love your enemy" and go from there. To start with "the Bible is inerrant" and rationalize from that is to follow something else. That path goes into some truly dank places.


Author: iceage
Forum: The Great Debate
Thread: Biblical Coherency (Rob and Iceage Only)
MSG #: www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=8&t=164&m=25#25 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=8&t=164&m=25#25">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=8&t=164&m=25#25

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Edited by Archer Opterix, : brev.


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Message 23 of 25 (418195)
08-26-2007 9:54 PM
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08-26-2007 3:25 AM


Re: iceage in Great Debate
third. this particular bit:

quote:
As an aside, I believe the chief value of the Bible is the documentation of the evolution or transformation of human ethics, such as:

Love your tribal neighbor -> Love your non-tribal neighbor -> Love your enemy.


was the primary thing i was wanting to interject into this discussion from the beginning, but was prevented from doing because it was GD.


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Message 24 of 25 (419021)
08-31-2007 12:50 PM


Molbiogirl for everything in a thread
Holistic Doctors, and medicine

I have been impressed with Molbiogirl's posts everywhere and maybe this thread just exemplifies the careful, well presented and fact laden posts the always does.

I just felt it was time for a bit of recognition for them all.


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Message 25 of 25 (419043)
08-31-2007 3:04 PM
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08-31-2007 12:50 PM


Re: Molbiogirl for everything in a thread
[blush]

Aw, Ned.

Thanks.


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