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Ihategod
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Message 1 of 6 (418892)
08-30-2007 11:42 PM


It seems as if I have rubbed the wrong way against too many people. I intend to break no more rules as I have been given adequate warnings. However, I must point out (in all due respect) the disappointment I feel when an admin or mod barges in my threads and accuses me specifically for breaking rules I am consciously attempting to avoid breaking. ESPECIALLY when it is obvious that the evolutionists (for the most part) can post heretical things about me to their hearts content and all the while being off topic. Not in ANY way to suggest that I haven't been warned and excused on excess, I would like to apologize and submit that I am here to learn. I, however, will not be treated with contempt and refuse to be the victim of special alienation due to any character flaws I may possess. I apologize now and ask that I be granted due participation, uninterrupted; unless in clear and unprovoked violation of rules, in this wonderful forum.

Thank you, sincerely.


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anglagard
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Message 2 of 6 (418900)
08-31-2007 1:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ihategod
08-30-2007 11:42 PM


Welcome to the Fray
Vashgun writes:

Not in ANY way to suggest that I haven't been warned and excused on excess, I would like to apologize and submit that I am here to learn. I, however, will not be treated with contempt and refuse to be the victim of special alienation due to any character flaws I may possess. I apologize now and ask that I be granted due participation, uninterrupted; unless in clear and unprovoked violation of rules, in this wonderful forum.

I don't believe that anyone here intends to insult your person. However, you must remember that you are debating science, philosophy, religion, and even on occasion politics, with, if not the greatest minds on the planet (an understatement), at least some of the most passionately involved minds on the planet concerning these great questions.

Your ego will be bruised in the process, as it has happened to anyone who has hung around here long enough. This is part and parcel of the process of learning. Learning that there are other perspectives, other philosophies, other religions. If nothing else, the grindstone of Evc will inevitably sharpen the sword of critical thinking, regardless of your position on the greatest questions concerning existence.

Please continue to view this forum as an opportunity to learn, as opposed to preach some self-assumed absolute truth that is only shared by you and God alone.

Personally, I believe that if you are serious about your intent, you are beginning a long journey toward wisdom. A journey that requires humility, attention, and the gathering of knowledge about all things that is beyond the capability or desire of most humans that are satisfied with being average.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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AdminSchraf
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Message 3 of 6 (418929)
08-31-2007 7:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ihategod
08-30-2007 11:42 PM


Just remember the Golden Rule, Vashgun.

If you don't want to be treated with contempt, don't treat others with contempt.

If you don't want to be insulted, don't insult others.

If you want to have your arguments be given respect and serious consideration, then afford the same courtesy to others' arguments.

You arrived at this board sneering and scoffing at anyone who disagreed with you. Your posts are heavy on the contempt and light on the facts and reasoned, methodical argumentation. At the same time, you have been very sensitive to any hint of the same treatment coming back at you.

Those of us who have been participants here for a long time have seen such behavior from Creationists very frequently.

You must realize that this is the first and continued impression that you have given everyone here, so if your intention is truly to change, you have that self-imposed obstacle to overcome.

Having said that, we are a pretty forgiving, tolerant lot here at EvC. You won't be suspended banned for having ideas that the majority disagree with (unlike at most Creationist boards). Only your behavior as it pertains to the Forum Guidelines matters.

Thank you for your apology, and please take this message as it was intended; to help your paricipation at EvC be productive and enjoyable.


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Message 4 of 6 (418978)
08-31-2007 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ihategod
08-30-2007 11:42 PM


Hi Vashgun,

I've been on vacation for the past couple weeks and haven't been posting much, but we've been in a thread together. It may be that moderators have jumped on you too harshly, but I've only observed your participation in that one thread, at least that I can recall right now, so I can't really judge how fairly you've been treated. But in that one thread I thought I noticed significant positive changes in your approach.

But my recollection is that you did begin here somewhat like a battering ram, and it may take moderators a while to recognize any changes. The site needs articulate and constructive voices on both sides of the issue, and I certainly hope you can be one of those.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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Rob 
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Message 5 of 6 (419362)
09-02-2007 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Admin
08-31-2007 10:59 AM


Percy sorry for the interruption, and thank you for promoting my topic in Origins of life. However, my privilages of access to 'Origins' was not restored, so I cannot answer the questions posted by other members.

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Message 6 of 6 (419363)
09-02-2007 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Rob
09-02-2007 12:27 PM


Restored to Origins
Behavith thyself.

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