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mark24 Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
Vashgun,
It is a fairy tale, that if true would imply utter hopelessness. I choose to believe in good things instead of this disgusting theory. The solution to poverty is not believing yourself rich. There is no evidence of god, & there is evidence of the big bang. It never ceases to amaze me the lack of irony displayed by the religious when they insist what other people accept is a "fairy tale". Mark Edited by mark24, : No reason given. There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2669 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Just try it. What do you have to lose that you can take with you after your physical body dies? A lifetime of sincere inquiry.
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Percy Member Posts: 22499 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Hi Vashgun,
"Evolutionist" is not a synonym for "atheist". Many evolutionists believe in God. What evolutionists do not believe is a literal interpretation of Genesis. Rejecting a literal interpretation of Genesis is not a rejection of God. --Percy
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2504 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined: |
Vashgun writes: Faith. Unbending, unreasoning faith. So you agree with many of us that the views you express here are without reason, then. Good. Why the sudden honesty?
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
It is a fairy tale, that if true would imply utter hopelessness. I choose to believe in good things instead of this disgusting theory. But hopelessness, good, and disgusting have nothing to do with being true or false, do they? Or are you admitting that creationists prefer to believe in a good fairy tale over a hopeless and disgusting reality? I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger
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Clark Inactive Member |
Regarding the BB theory you say:
It is a fairy tale, that if true would imply utter hopelessness. I choose to believe in good things instead of this disgusting theory. Are aware that the one of the orignators of the BB theory was a devout Christian (Lemaitre) and his ideas were strongly opposed by Spinozian pantheist (Einstein) and an atheist (Fred Hoyle)? Their opposition to the theory was, among other things, based on it sounding a bit too biblical. I'm not sure that it matters, just thought you might find it interesting.
quote: Big Bang - Wikipedia
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6057 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
There is no evidence of god Of course their is! Look around. People, earth, solar systems, etc...
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6057 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
A lifetime of sincere inquiry. Which gets you what when you roast in hell?
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6057 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
Many evolutionists believe in God. A sick retarded God perhaps.
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6057 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
But hopelessness, good, and disgusting have nothing to do with being true or false, do they? Or are you admitting that creationists prefer to believe in a good fairy tale over a hopeless and disgusting reality? If things like common descent and God were known, then there would be no debate. What is truth? What is reality? More metaphysical questions than could be observed through scientific thought. Of course Creationists prefer their religion to meaninglessness!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Of course their is! Look around. People, earth, solar systems, etc... I should explain that the word "system" doesn't mean "thing created by a supernatural being" even if you write it in italics. I'd explain what petitio principii means, too, but you seem to have got the hang of it on your own, carry on.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Vash, even the last two Popes have accepted the scientific model of evolution.
Are you saying that the Pope believes in a "sick, retarded God"? The truth of the matter is that there is abundant, confirmatory evidence of common descent, and that the debate is over. It's over and done with! It was over in the 1800's. The only people who hang on to the failed ideas of creationism are the people who are too ignorant to know better or who have been brainwashed by religion. The scientific debate on the issue has been over for two centuries. Creationists are simply stuck in 1799.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
If things like common descent and God were known, then there would be no debate. It doesn't follow. There are still people who argue that the Earth is flat. That doesn't mean that the answer to the question of the shape of the Earth is unknown per se --- it's just unknown to them.
Of course Creationists prefer their religion to meaninglessness! Actually, you seem to have hit on an ingenious method of combining the two.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
A sick retarded God perhaps. You should read the books of Genesis, Exodus, and Joshua. Taking it all literally, it would appear that the fundamentalists worship a sick and retarded god. I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Of course Creationists prefer their religion to meaninglessness! Meanless, much like your post. It doesn't address the point that I was making. I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger
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