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Message 16 of 22 (256000)
11-01-2005 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by NosyNed
11-01-2005 10:39 AM


Re: Cars
car manufacturers aren't willfully evil. for that they'd have to be producing the cars with the spoecific intent and desire to kill people. i assure you. they don't want to kill their consumers. however, they know that the product is inherently dangerous and they market it because people want it. if the people were so worried about their safety, they would have bought a volvo. (they still would any car that can survive driving off a fjord is a good car for me..) cars were still mostly luxury items into the mid seventies. it was still a sign of (even moderate) wealth. people still lived mostly in small towns or in cities with buses or had a farm cart. until the mass onslaught of the eyesore suburbs, it wasn't a necessity.

so sure, the manufacturers allow for a certain number of casualties before they are forced to fix something. the military does more and we don't fault them... it took years for them to declare the osprey a deathtrap.

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Message 17 of 22 (256004)
11-01-2005 10:54 AM


Consumer protectionism pretty marginal to the main theme of the topic
I think extended consumer protectionism discussion should be brought to a new "Coffee House" topic.

I will say here, that government extreme consumer protectionism should be filed under "ultra-liberalism", while extreme non-consumer protectionism should be filed under "ultra-conservatism". It should be something of moderation, something somewhere in the middle.

But please take any replies to this message to a new topic.

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Message 18 of 22 (273699)
12-28-2005 10:53 PM
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11-01-2005 12:33 AM


Re: Nader
be smart enough not to buy an unsafe product. smoking kills. how do i know? ask bill maher... maybe the coughing?

Have you ever seen the insider? Most of the early lawsuits against cigarette companies were more than justified...

I would agree that anyone who still smokes is just stupid.

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Message 19 of 22 (289836)
02-23-2006 2:16 PM


Conservative econ. Bruce Bartlett - Looking at President Bush, Seeing an 'Impostor'
Caught much of yesterdays (2/22/06) "Fresh Air" with Terry Gross.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5227215

Quoted from the above cited:

quote:
Despite what his supporters say, President Bush has far more in common with Richard Nixon than Ronald Reagan. That's the idea put forth in conservative economist Bruce Bartlett's new book, Impostor.

The book, subtitled "How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy," looks at the president from the point of view of a former Reagan White House official.

Calling President Bush an opportunist who lacks a set of political principles like those that guided Reagan, Bartlett worries that the country -- and conservatives in particular -- are being hurt by the president's mistakes. He faults Bush for increasing federal spending -- with programs like the 2003 Medicare prescription drug bill -- while also cutting taxes.

Bartlett, who supported Bush in the 2000 election, was a domestic policy aide at the White House in the Reagan administration; he also served as deputy assistant secretary in the Treasury Department under the first President Bush.

Until recently, Bartlett was a senior fellow at the conservative think tank the National Center for Policy Analysis. He lost the job in October because, Bartlett says, he was increasingly critical of President Bush.


Also available at the page is fair sized excerpt from the "Imposter" book.

There are also links to listen to the archived "Fresh Air" program itself. I could not get them to work.

The page also supplies this link to a Barlett column archive:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/brucebartlett/archive.shtml

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Message 20 of 22 (399328)
05-05-2007 12:36 AM


Republican presidental candidates on evolution
For lack of a better place, here it is.

Via http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/05/the_republicans.html#pings

Which guides to http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/2007/05/the_republicans_on_evolution.php, where the further discussion is found:

Lifted from Jason Rosenhouse's Panda's Thumb message:

As you have no doubt heard by now, there was a brief exchange on evolution at last night's Republican debate. Senator John McCain was asked bluntly whether he “believed in” evolution. After a moment of hesitation he answered, simply, “Yes.” Moderator Chris Matthews then asked the ten candidates whether any of them did not believie in evolution. Representative Tom Tancredo, Senator Sam Brownback and Governor Mike Huckabee raised their hands.

There were, as I understand it, no follow up questions.

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Message 21 of 22 (419823)
09-04-2007 11:41 PM


GOP fiscal responsibility vs. "tax and spend" liberals
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2007/db070902.gif

What we need are some good "tax and spend" liberals.

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Message 22 of 22 (420113)
09-06-2007 9:39 AM
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09-04-2007 11:41 PM


Re: GOP fiscal responsibility vs. "tax and spend" liberals
you mean instead of spend and tax cut republicans?
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