Aliens and the Bible

Here is being described, a flying vehicle that can make a lot of noise when it flies, shoots "hailstones",has flashes of light similar to muzzle flash, a "being" in a dark cockpit and picks him up and moves ou of harms way.

Sorry but no muzzle flashes, no flying vehicle, no cockpit, but it is attributed to God and not aliens.Fantasy.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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I have considered it, yes, but if it is a troll, it is a really good one.There's a PTN in which he reveals himself to be a blatant racist.Hmmmm, I am starting to lean your way, I think.

And God is a "spiritual" being, from our perspective, here is described a "physical" manifestation. In vs. 13 and 14 weaponry is being used. Why would "God" have to use weapons?

Nonsense. God is also often shown as a physical critter, walking with people, making other critters out of mud. ROTFLMAOYeah, right. Weaponry? Thunder, lightning, it is simply poetic.As I said, do any of you actually read the Bible?

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there are lots of times when god is described as being physical. have you read genesis?

Your a real gem Jar.What you believe is really crazy, instead of trying to pick the speck out of someone else's eye you should concentrate on the plank in your own. Can you not even see how this could further elone's argument? Are you really that dense? It makes sense to me, although I find the idea of God in a airship rather strange. Also lets look at the book of ezekiel.http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/eze001.htmhere is a sample: This could very well be describing a ship of some sort. I don't see why angels don't have rides. i could walk to the store but i'd rather drive.
paraphrased fromHEREThis is a good site to review. very interesting.
The Bible UFO Connection ALL HAIL THE GREAT INTERPRETEREdited by Highestevolvedwhiteguy, : No reason given.

I'll take your word for it, and I will no longer use it if it makes you happy.

Nope. Can't see it. In fact the idea of an airship in that is about as silly as I can imagine. It just ain't there. Okay. Let's look at Zeke.That quote is actually from Ezekiel 1. If you look at it all that is there is classic imagery of the time.Folk can read all of Ezekiel 1 here.No aliens.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Highest..: I not only believe there is intelligent life beyond us in this universe, but in a sense, even beyond this universe. I also believe that life has contacted us quite clearly.A man once said to me that he was hoping for an alien race to come and save us from our own tendency to destroy ourselves.My first thought was to tell him that his proposal is ridiculous and a totally faith based hope (no such thing as aliens etc . ). But instead, I said to him, “It already happened two thousand years ago.”“The Aliens came . not in some relatively crude spacecraft that we envision to be advanced, but rather in the most sophisticated vessel in the known universe; a human body. And did so by some astonishingly alien and technologically advanced method of virgin birth.He told the Roman Governor Pilate that His kingdom was not of this world. He revealed His true self to His disciples in the transfiguration on the Mount of Olives which left them terrified, but He said to them, ”be not afraid’.We then crucified this alien visitor because He claimed these things and threatened our wrongly desired power. He rose again on the third day. He then mysteriously ascended into heaven in a fashion that is possibly similar to a Star Trek transporter (not technologically so to speak, but quite naturally). And before leaving, He told His followers that He would return to raise them to life again and take them into His eternal dwelling.”The man’s face grew a bit pale when I told him this. I was only glad to see Him make the connections for the first time and see that the Biblical Christ was far more plausible than He had ever considered and actually claimed to meet the desires of His heart.He no longer perceived a disconnect between his own hope, and that offered by Christ. It is a perspective that is worthy of consideration because this visitor did not only promise to reward us with the inner peace we seek if we simply believe blindly; but promised to open our eyes to the truth, and reveal Himself by the Holy Spirit individually if we ask Him. It is seeing faith, not blind faith.Since I have seen Him for myself, I know it is true. As for the rest who seek and believe in such things, we should tell them that the idea is not modern science fiction, but ancient and present reality.The implications?Frogiveness of sins and the subsequent establishment of a relationship with the creator of heaven and earth.Personally, I call that ”Good News’!

This is one of those instances where you can make something up and then insert into the Bible.If god didn't exist and aliens have been to earth before, this passage could be describing a spaceship that the viewer *thought* was god, dontcha think? I mean, its not impossible.I realize that from simply reading the Bible, this scenario is not implied. But if you are the type who likes to make stuff up and insert it into the Bible, then this passage could be describing a spaceship.I know that you're opposed to that type of Bible *study*, but it looks like you just hand-waving instead of addressing the situation.

How can you tell the difference? If the technology was advanced enough, you wouldn't be able too. Considering that, then all of Jesus' miracles could have been faked if he was an alien with significantly advanced technology.

What situation? The situation of "Theology by making shit up?"If you are the type of person who, in your words, "likes to make stuff up and insert it into the Bible", then yes, you can make up aliens and spaceships and insert it in the Bible.But that is stuff the person made up, not what is there. The examples so far, Psalm 18 and Ezekiel 1 simply don't describe aliens or spacecraft or weaponry or robots. The former is VERY clearly talking about God in Heaven and the latter is classic Jewish imagery.

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This is silly rob. How is your position different from his?
How is the human body the "most sophisticated vessel" in the universe? WHy can't there be more sophisticated vessels?
What is sosphisticated?
How does "virgin birth" qualify one for being an alien?
Why do the gospels talk of a human?
What evidence is there for the ascendence of this alien?
Do you have any outside (of the bible) corroboration of this alien and the things this alien did?Or is this all an assertion by the master theologaster rob?