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Author Topic:   Your favourite Bible absurdity
PaulK
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Message 61 of 159 (42022)
06-03-2003 5:33 PM
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06-03-2003 4:44 PM


I find it interesting that the people who promote the Bible as the Word of God are so unfamiliar with it.

Did you even know that the reference is to a parable ? And that it does not refer to a miracle at all ? Did you even try to find out ?

Matthew 13:32


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Brian
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Message 62 of 159 (42067)
06-04-2003 10:15 AM
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06-03-2003 4:44 PM


. An all-powerful being can create a great tree from a mustard seed because it's all-powerful.

A mustard seed is all powerful ?


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Conspirator
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Message 63 of 159 (42113)
06-04-2003 8:39 PM


Oh sorry about how that came out.... I was referring to God as an all-powerful being, not the mustard seed. Man am I tired right now...
  
Geno
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Message 64 of 159 (42299)
06-07-2003 1:49 AM


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Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed reading the debate. Thank you all for the education!
  
Itachi Uchiha
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Message 65 of 159 (43572)
06-22-2003 12:55 AM


which is more absurd?
1. God created the universe
2. The universe created itself

1. i made myself a milk shake in five minutes
2. The milk shake made itself from millions of years of evolution.

I'm seeing eveerybody here trashing the bible but honestly evolution theories are more absurd. As an engineer I know nothing makes itself. Everything is desinged and then made. Evolution says that if i throw a few sacks of cement with wood sand and all the tools and leave them there for a million years, under the right conditions a house will make itself. Please people dont you know how absurd that is. everything thing in this universe points to a creator. Is it God? who knows but the only thing that can come from a cloud of dust, or whatever you want to call it, is an allergy.

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John
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Message 66 of 159 (43574)
06-22-2003 1:00 AM
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06-22-2003 12:55 AM


quote:
1. i made myself a milk shake in five minutes
2. The milk shake made itself from millions of years of evolution.

The analogy is flawed for the simple reason that milkshakes don't reproduce and pass along slightly modified genes each generation.

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Itachi Uchiha
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Message 67 of 159 (43576)
06-22-2003 1:05 AM


how does does this reproduction of genes happen then?
Educate me im a mathematitian more than a cientist
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John
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Message 68 of 159 (43580)
06-22-2003 1:13 AM
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06-22-2003 1:05 AM


Reproduction of genes is easy. You can watch it under the microscope every time a cell divides. A cell makes copies of its genetic material and divides. Each new cell has half of the doubled set of genes. The catch is that the copying process isn't 100% accurate. Errors occur. Occasionally those errors allow the cell to produce a protein that is useful, so it gains a bit of advantage and makes a few more babies. The next generation has a higher percentage of altered genes. This is evolution.

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Itachi Uchiha
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Message 69 of 159 (43586)
06-22-2003 1:41 AM


okay. i understand the concept of reproduction cause it happens in every living thing but my question is from where did this first cell or gene came from so that it could reproduce? and the idea that you gave me is that when ceells reproduce instead of evolving they are degrading due to all the erros that are produced

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IrishRockhound
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Message 70 of 159 (43590)
06-22-2003 2:00 AM


No one is sure where the first cell came from. The current theory is abiogenesis - google it for a better explanation.

The fact that we're all still here after so many millions of years suggest to me that its more likely that cells don't degrade when they reproduce.

The Rock Hound

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AdminPamboli
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Message 71 of 159 (43591)
06-22-2003 2:03 AM
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06-22-2003 1:41 AM


drifting off topic
We're drifting, guys. Jazz, the topic is about Biblical absurdities. I know you probably think it was important to counter alleged Biblical absurdities with alleged evolutionary absurdities, but let us not allow the topic to drift away from its theme.

If you want to discuss evolutionary absurdities, why not open another topic, or chime in one of the more appropriate topics?

I appreciate your contribution, but it's a good thing to keep the topics clear.

thanks

AdminPamboli


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Itachi Uchiha
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Message 72 of 159 (43638)
06-22-2003 1:38 PM


You said a cell divides into two and so on and that they dont degrade but at least humans do. a brother and a sister come fron the same place so following this theory if they mate their blood line will improve but we all know their child will be abnormal. If evoulution is true why arent we getting better? Instead eerything in this world has been degrading since day one which goes totally against evolution rules. Once again i'm not an expert on creation or evolution. im just clearing my doubts here. But as you can see i tend to go toward creation cause it makesmore sense to a simple brained human like me

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John
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Message 73 of 159 (43645)
06-22-2003 2:28 PM
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06-22-2003 1:38 PM


Mr.P is right. The topic is drifting. We can continue in another thread. There are already some open on the subject, or start another one specific to this one issue.

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mike the wiz
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Message 74 of 159 (43663)
06-22-2003 5:48 PM
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04-17-2003 7:23 AM


'What is your favourite bible absurdity? '

is that all you can manage Brian ,oh dear down and down we go bible haters not in the know,
arguements drowning
evos frowning
i'll stick to the good word i know.


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Brian
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Message 75 of 159 (43668)
06-22-2003 6:48 PM


Have you been drinking Mike, or are you filled with the brain numbing Holy Spirit?

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