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kuresu
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Message 29 of 212 (418539)
08-28-2007 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Taz
08-28-2007 7:57 PM


Not meaning to barge in on your barging in, but don't you mean "fission" when describing mitosis?
Otherwise you're talking about the formation of a zygote, which is a fusion. And fusions are not "identical".

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kuresu
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Message 32 of 212 (418565)
08-29-2007 12:33 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Hyroglyphx
08-29-2007 12:11 AM


Re: The what?
Wow. One giant post of inanity.
First, your objection to the fossil record. There are clear transitionals in the fossils. Furthermore, I believe they are called foraminifera, but they have essentially the entire evolutionary history (in fossils). Unfortunately, I can't find a link to the evolutionary history I'm thinking of. Which means I might have the wrong organism in mind. Someone on this board knows what I'm talking about though, I suspect.
Second, the D. melanogaster experiments were not designed to test evolution. See, evolution has two parts. Natural Selection and [/b]Mutation[/b]. Tell me, did those experiments include natural selection in the design? No. They were designed, if I recall correctly, to test specific effects of mutations in certain genes. In order to design an experiment to test evolution, you not only need to cause mutation (such as with radiation), but have a selection factor. The drosophila melanogaster experiments were not designed to test evolution!
Oh, by the way, the human genome consists of 20-25,000 genes. The fruit fly? Around 13,000, like you say. So we have maybe twice the number of genes, but ten times the number of chromosomes. How many did you think we humans have?

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kuresu
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Message 190 of 212 (420391)
09-07-2007 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 189 by Cold Foreign Object
09-07-2007 4:52 PM


objective persons know they can easily find the text to your post by hitting the "peek" button.
objective persons also know your stark raving mad.
of course, by your logic, since I'm against you, that makes you right, so because I say your stark raving mad that means either I'm actually stark raving mad or that you aren't, or both.
This also means that people cannot actually find your text by hitting the "peek" button, because since I said they could and because I'm an "enemy" and therefore wrong.
But if I'm stark raving mad (which I'd have to be to call you stark raving mad, and since I called you that that clearly means I am myself), how can you even trust what I say to begin with? After all, since I'm mad, I wouldn't know what I'm writing, right?
Your logic is funny, ray.

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