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Rrhain
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Message 76 of 145 (411163)
07-19-2007 4:34 AM


Tal? Well?
Are you still claiming that there were WMDs in Iraq when we invaded? With multiple reports including the British and American authorities directly stating that there were no WMDs in Iraq, are you still claiming that there were?

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Tal
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Message 77 of 145 (412905)
07-26-2007 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Modulous
07-16-2007 12:58 PM


So they can build weapons of mass destruction?
That's the point. That's why they were here in the first place. I highly doubt they were here flipping burgers. Saying WMD Experts were/are in Iraq to do anything other build WMD is like watching a guy in a mask with a gun walk into a bank and then assume he's only there to cash a check.

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Modulous
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Message 78 of 145 (412973)
07-27-2007 2:22 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Tal
07-26-2007 6:18 PM


That's the point. That's why they were here in the first place. I highly doubt they were here flipping burgers. Saying WMD Experts were/are in Iraq to do anything other build WMD is like watching a guy in a mask with a gun walk into a bank and then assume he's only there to cash a check.
Not really. We know that Iraq once had WMD, and the people that could make them, maintain them and decommission them. When Hussein stops building WMDs - the expertise doesn't evaporate; they still live in the country.
The insurgents are smart enough to realize this, and they are now looking for these people with a view to employing them (or otherwise persuading them to use their expertise).

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Nuggin
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Message 79 of 145 (412975)
07-27-2007 2:43 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Tal
07-26-2007 6:18 PM


Sovern Nations
Let's assume that you are correct, that Iraq had the capability, desire and materials to make weapons of mass destruction.
That makes Iraq EXACTLY like virtually every nation in the world.
Why attack Iraq for the same offenses that Egypt, Canada, Argentina, Australia, etc. etc. etc. are all engaged in?

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Tal
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Message 80 of 145 (420480)
09-08-2007 3:01 AM


Are you still claiming that there were WMDs in Iraq when we invaded?
Edited by Tal, : Pics added
Edited by AdminAsgara, : fixed page width

News Media: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory 1 negative report at a time.

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Tal
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Message 81 of 145 (420483)
09-08-2007 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by Nuggin
07-27-2007 2:43 AM


Re: Sovern Nations
Egypt, Canada, Argentina, Australia, etc. etc. etc. didn't use WMD on their own people or invade another country in last 30 years.

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Zawi
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Message 82 of 145 (420506)
09-08-2007 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Tal
09-08-2007 3:01 AM


Got any captions to go with those pictures? A bit of yellow on someone's forearm isn't what I have in mind when I think of mass destruction.
Edited by Zawi, : No reason given.

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Tal
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Message 83 of 145 (420511)
09-08-2007 10:19 AM
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09-08-2007 9:40 AM


Got any captions to go with those pictures?
No.

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Chiroptera
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Message 84 of 145 (420522)
09-08-2007 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Tal
09-08-2007 3:01 AM


Huh. Were those soldiers in New York when that Iraqi ICBM hit near them? Because as I recall, that is what we were supposed to be so afraid.
Added by edit:
Can someone fix those images so the page will fit in my browser window?
Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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Nuggin
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Message 85 of 145 (420543)
09-08-2007 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Tal
09-08-2007 3:01 AM


Poison Oaka is a WMD?
Nasty case of poison oak there.

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crashfrog
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Message 86 of 145 (420547)
09-08-2007 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Zawi
09-08-2007 9:40 AM


Call them "weapons of minimal destruction."
Finding that degraded crap was well worth 200 hojillion dollars and 3000 American lives, don't you think?

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Chiroptera
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Message 87 of 145 (420561)
09-08-2007 1:17 PM
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09-08-2007 12:23 PM


I would also imagine that if those substances were actually assembled into a workable missile (you know, the so-called "imminent threat") they would have been easier to identify and be handled properly, and those burns would not have occurred.

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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Tal
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Message 88 of 145 (420725)
09-09-2007 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by Chiroptera
09-08-2007 1:17 PM


If those WMD that don't exist were easier to indentify and handled properly, then (insert pic) would not have occurred.
Think I found my new sig.

News Media: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory 1 negative report at a time.

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Tal
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Message 89 of 145 (420727)
09-09-2007 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by crashfrog
09-08-2007 12:23 PM


Maybe the "There were no WMD!" crowd would think differently if that was their arm?
Edited by Tal, : No reason given.

If those WMD that don't exist were easier to identify and handled properly, then this would not have occurred. -Chiroptera

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Chiroptera
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Message 90 of 145 (420728)
09-09-2007 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Tal
09-09-2007 10:04 AM


Hi, Tal.
Yeah, that new sig is pretty funny in that it shows your utter lack of reading comprehension skills.
However, just in case you post to a different thread and people won't realize that I actually did not say that, I'm going to have to insist that you remove it.

I could tell you what I've read about evolution, the big-bang, super-universes, quantum foam, and all that stuff. Eventually you'd ask a question I can't answer, then I'd have to go look it up. Even If I had the time for that shit, in the end you'd ask a question science hasn't answered yet. So let's save time and skip ahead to "I don't know." -- jhuger

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