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Bible Question: What was the First Sin?

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ringo
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Message 268 of 312 (421043)
09-10-2007 8:54 PM 		Reply to: Message 265 by arachnophilia
09-10-2007 8:38 PM

arachnophilia writes:
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... she seems to verify it first.
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But what value does that "verification" have? It's like children verifying their ideas by consulting with each other.
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if it WAS poison, she certainly wouldn't have taken it to her husband.
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It's not a very important point, but I don't see where she took it to him. He might have been standing right there and they might have eaten together.
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It doesn't say, after all, that she relayed the serpent's message to him. He seems to have eaten without batting an eye. Does that suggest that he took God's warning seriously?
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09-10-2007 9:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 267 by arachnophilia
09-10-2007 8:48 PM

Re: the fundamental question
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chavah does not blindly follow the serpent, she looks and judges for herself upon hearing the alternative.
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She doesn't blindly follow anybody.
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It's interesting that she couldn't have made an informed choice, because God didn't inform her of the true consquences.
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and both are punished for shifting blame.
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So the first sin is playing the blame game?
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09-11-2007 3:59 PM 		Reply to: Message 274 by anastasia
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anastasia writes:
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Following orders gets you off the hook in monasteries and armies and traffic accidents at any rate.
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But not in international war crimes tribunals.
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In the end, it always comes down to individual responsibility.
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Message 279 of 312 (425783)
10-04-2007 12:52 AM 		Reply to: Message 278 by gen
10-03-2007 10:48 PM

gen writes:
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Eve's was the first sin on earth, but the question clearly states what was the first sin.
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No. The question clearly asks:
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What was the first sin committed by a human in the Bible? Message 1
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So the rest of your fantasy is irrelevant.
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12-11-2007 12:41 AM 		Reply to: Message 305 by imageinvisible
12-11-2007 12:20 AM

Re: Why do you insist on making God look stupid?
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... and perfect like God said he was in Gen. 1:31....
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God said no such thing. He said, "good" - not perfect.
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12-11-2007 12:57 AM 		Reply to: Message 307 by imageinvisible
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Re: Why do you insist on making God look stupid?
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Don't go misquoting scripture now Miss Ringo.
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I didn't. I pointed out where you misquoted. That would probably be a sin, though not the first one.
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